Subject: DC-WG: 3/7 meeting minutes
From: Mark Hahn (mhahn@cadence.com)
Date: Mon Mar 20 2000 - 19:53:01 PST
Meeting minutes from the 3/7/00 DC-WG teleconference
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Attendees:
  Mark Hahn, Cadence
  Tom Dewey, Mentor
  Bob Dilly, IBM
  John Paul, IBM
  Vikas Sharma, IBM
New action items:
      Who         When     What
      ----------  ------   --------
 1.   Tom         3/14     Update the spec with changes
Open action items:
      Who         When     What
      ----------  ------   --------
Closed action items:
      Who         When     What
      ----------  ------   --------
 1.   Tom         3/7      Update the spec with changes
 2.   Bob         2/29     Test behavior of relative includes
                  -> 3/7   (source) in TCL, along with handling
                           of embedded spaces in the file name
                           for PC compatibility
Next Meeting:
  The next meeting will be a teleconference on 3/14/00
  from 9-11 am (PDT)
Details:
  1. DAC planning
     We talked about several options for DAC.  There are two conflicting
     perspectives, since we've made steady progress but aren't yet ready to
     do press releases about the availability of an OVI-approved standard
     and release timelines from multiple companies.
     On the one hand, it doesn't make sense to invest a lot in DAC
     preparations, since any demo or presentations that we would do
     would be similar to last year.  Given finite bandwidth, it's
     better to make more progress on the spec than to rehash the same
     message.
     On the other hand, if we don't rehash the same message, people
     may assume that no progress is being made on the standard.
     We agreed that we need to know whether booth space will be
     available by the end of March.  If there is booth space,
     we will prepare a presentation and handouts, but most likely
     not do a live demo.  At most, we would demo a single tool,
     focusing on how users interact with the constraints at the
     start of the flow.
  2. include command
     Bob investigated the behavior of the TCL source command
     and found that it interprets relative file names with respect
     to the current working directory of the program.
     We want the DCDL include command to be relative to the
     directory containing the parent file.  Mark suggested that
     it is feasible and desirable to implement the DCDL include
     command as a wrapper around the TCL source commmand, where
     the wrapper is responsible for setting up a file scope for
     the included file and for setting the right current working
     directory in the program.
  3. design_name_space command
     We agreed that the -characters option should use regular
     expression character set notation, and that we should reference
     the POSIX 1003.2 standard for this.
     We also agreed that there should be a single, consistent set
     of rules for escaped characters in general DCDL strings
     (those which don't contain design object names).  Strings
     containing design object names are subject to the escaping
     conventions defined by the design_name_space.
Thanks,
Mark
-- Mark Hahn phone: (408) 428-5399 Senior Architect fax: (408) 428-5959 Cadence Design Systems email: mhahn@cadence.com
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