Subject: IBIS 8/5/94 Meeting Minutes

From: Derrick Duehren <[email-masked]>
Date: Thu, 11 Aug 94 22:39:01 PST

Text item: Text_1

Date:    Aug. 11, 1994

From:    Will Hobbs (503) 696-4369, fax (503) 696-4210
         [email-masked]
         XTG Modeling Manager, Intel Corp., Chairperson, IBIS Open Forum
         Intel Corporation
         5200 NE Elam Young Pkwy, Hillsboro, Oregon 97124 USA
         and
         Derrick Duehren (503) 696-4299, fax (503) 696-4904
         [email-masked]
         Intel Program Manager

Subject: Minutes from IBIS Open Forum Meeting 8/5/94

To:
AT&T Global Info Systems      Dave Moxley
Anacad                        Steffen Rochel
Ansoft                        Henri Maramis
Atmel Corporation             Dan Terry
Cadence Design                Sandeep Khanna, C. Kumar*
Cadlab                        Ralf Bruning
Contec                        Maah Sango
Digital Equipment Corp.       Barry Katz*
EIA                           Patty Rusher
High Design Technology        Michael Smith, Dr. Ing. Cosso
HyperLynx                     Kellee Crisafulli*
IBM                           Jay Diepenbrock, Joseph Flanigan
IBM-Motorola alliance         Lynn Warriner, Hoa Quoc, John Burnett
Integrated Silicon Systems    Eric Bracken
Integrity Engineering         Greg Doyle
Intel Corporation             Stephen Peters, Don Telian, Will Hobbs*
                              Arpad Muranyi*, Derrick Duehren*,
                              John Keifer
Interconnectix, Inc.          Bob Ross*, Scott Bloom*
Intergraph                    Ian Dodd, David Wiens
IntuSoft                      Charles Hymowitz
Mentor Graphics               Ravender Goyal
Meta-Software                 Mei Wong, You-Pang Wei, John Sliney, 
NEC                           Hiroshi Matsumoto
MicroSim                      Arthur Wong
National Semiconductor        Syed Huq*
North Carolina State U.       Steve Lipa, Michael Steer*
OptEM Engineering, Inc.       Benny Leveille, Ken Ehn
PC Ware                       Paul Munsey
Quad Design                   Jon Powell
Quantic Labs                  Mike Ventham
Racal-Redac                   John Berrie
Siemens Nixdorf               Werner Rissiek, Olaf Rethmeier*
Symmetry                      Martin Walker
Synopsys, Logic Modeling G.   Randy Harr*
Texas Instruments             Bob Ward
Thomson-CSF/SCTF              Jean Lebrun
UniCAD Canada Ltd.            Stephen Lum
Zeelan Technology             George Opsahl, Hiro Moriyasu

CC:
Intel Corporation             Randy Wilhelm, Jerry Budelman,
                              Intel IBIS team

In the list above, attendees at the meeting are indicated by *

Upcoming Meetings: The room and bridge numbers for future IBIS teleconferences 
are listed below:
     Date       Bridge Number    Reservation #
     8/26/94    (415) 904-8944   #809164
     9/16/94    (415) 904-8944   #809164
     10/7/94    (415) 904-8944   #809164

All meetings are 8:00 AM to 10:00 AM PDT (15:00 to 17:00 UTC).  We try to have 
agendas out 7 days before each open forum and meeting minutes out within 7 
days after.  When you call into the meeting, ask for the IBIS Open Forum 
hosted by Will Hobbs and give the reservation number.

NOTE: "AR" = Action Required.

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Meeting Agenda
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Check-in
Intros of new IBIS participants                           Hobbs
Review of previous meeting's minutes                      Hobbs
Miscellany/Announcements/Treasurer's report               Hobbs
Opens for new issues                                      All
Press updates                                             Hobbs/All
Progress toward enlisting new IC vendors                  All
New models available                                      All
Golden Parser, 2.1 plans                                  Hobbs
IBIS Librarian                                            Powell
Standards body affiliation                                Hobbs
Spice-to-IBIS Converter                                   Ross
Pending BIRDs                                             Hobbs
Wrap-up, Next Meeting Plans                               Hobbs

Check-in, Intros, Announcements
There were no new participants.
There were no corrections made to last month's minutes.
Nothing new to report on finances.  There were no new issues.
There were no press updates reported.
There was no new public model availability announced.  Will announced that 
Intel is distributing IBIS models of unannounced parts under non-disclosure.

Progress toward enlisting new IC vendors
Syed is presenting IBIS to multiple groups within National Semi.

AR Will:  Send your  PowerPoint slide file to Syed.  [DONE]

Texas Instruments has published a Spice model Databook on a 3.5" disk.  NCSU 
proposes using these models as test input to the Spice-to-IBIS converter. 

Golden Parser, 2.1
We discussed funding the new parser.  It was agreed that we can start 
collecting funds.

AR Derrick: Post an "invoice" for the rev 2.0 GP for companies that are ready 
to buy-in now.

Old AR Stephen: Generate V2.0 test files for Paul by Aug. 1.
Old AR Kumar: Generate V2.0 package test files for Paul by Aug. 1.
Old AR Stephen: Start an evaluation/validation-plan discussion on the 
reflector.  [STARTED]

IBIS Librarian
Michael Steer of NCSU has submitted a proposal to have NCSU provide the 
librarian function while keeping the files on the vhdl.org machine.  

Vote taken to approve Michael Steer's proposal, there were no objections. 

AR Michael: Post procedures for companies to post IBIS files.

Disclaimer issue:  Librarian to add a line or two to point to a longer 
disclaimer statement.

AR Michael: Propose a longer statement and send it to Derrick Duehren for 
legal review.

Standards Body Affiliation
Will proposed affiliation to the EIA after ratification of IBIS Rev 2.1.  The 
DIE group, which uses IBIS and is funded by ARPA within the EIA, has 
volunteered to help guide IBIS through the standards process along with the 
DIE spec.  ARPA funding ends this year.  We would still retain control.

Advisory vote taken: Unanimously approved. 

====> A binding vote will be taken at the 8/26/94 meeting. <====

Spice-to-IBIS Converter
Bob Ross and Scott Bloom reported that the  V1.1 converter will be posted 
soon.  Berkeley 2,3, Pspice, Hspice support on Sun, DEC, HP700 Series, and 
RS6000.  They are having memory limitations running on DOS.  Kellee suggested 
running it under Windows 32 to avoid the memory problems.

AR Derrick: Retrieve files from \incoming and post them to \s2ibis.  [DONE]

BIRD 17, Number of Data Points
We continued the debate that has been on the reflector.  We need to either 
kill this BIRD or increase the number of pins past 101. 

AR Arpad to talk with Meta-Software and get their comments on this issue.

BIRD 18.2, [Diff Pin] Parameter Order
Vote taken on BIRD 18.2, approved unanimously.

V_fixture sub-keyword
Not discussed.

AR: Bob Ross, post this as BIRD 19.

Wrap-up, Next Meeting Plans
Our next meeting is 8/26/94.

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