[$ieee-1850] IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting - 23 November - Minutes

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IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting
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Location: Teleconference
Date: 23 Nov 2004
Presiding Officer:  Harry Foster, Chair
Secretary:  Erich Marschner
Website: http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850
Members:
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  Accellera          DR: Harry Foster
  Cadence            DR: Erich Marschner;       DRA: Steve Ward
  IBM                DR: Yaron Wolfsthal;       DRAs: Avigail Orni, Cindy Eisner, 
                                                      Sitvanit Ruah, Dana Fisman
  Mentor Graphics    DR: Steve Bailey;          DRA: Tej Singh
  Synopsys           DR: Surrendra Dudani;      DRA: Oz Levia
Attendance Record:
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  Key:
      v : member (= voting priveleges) during last meeting
      + : present (leftmost = most recent meeting)
      _ : absent
  Members:
v    (++++_++)  Accellera (DR: Harry Foster)
v    (+++++++)  Cadence (DR: Erich Marschner)
v    (+++++++)  IBM (DR: Yaron Wolfsthal) 
v    (+++++++)  Mentor Graphics (DR: Steve Bailey)
v    (+_+++++)  Synopsys (DR: Surrendra Dudani)
  Observers:
     (+++++++)  Avigail Orni (IBM)
     (+++++++)  Johan Mårtenson (Safelogic)
     (+++_+++)  Johan Alfredson (Safelogic)
     (++++++_)  Tej Singh (Mentor)
     (++_+++_)  Andrew Seawright (Mentor)
     (+++_+__)  Klaus Winkelmann (Infineon)
     (+_+++++)  Joseph Lu (NVidia)
     (+_+__++)  Sitvanit Ruah (IBM)
     (+_+++++)  Mohamed-Lyes Benalycherif (ST)
     (+_+____)  Andrea Fedeli
     (+__++++)  Dana Fisman (IBM/Weizmann Institute)
     (+__++++)  Bassam Tabbara (Novas)
     (+__+___)  Makarand Joshi (Cadence)
     (_++++++)  Tom Thatcher (Sun)
     (_++++__)  Jari Kalinainen (Nokia)
     (_++_+__)  Adriana Maggiore (AltraVerifica)
     (_+_+___)  Cindy Eisner (IBM)
     (__+_+__)  Steve Ward (Cadence)
   Inactive:
     (____+__)  Limor Fix (Intel)
     (_____++)  Jin Hou (Synopsys)
     (_____++)  Peter Flake (Synopsys)
     (_____++)  Ben Cohen (consultant)
     (_____+_)  Richard Wallace (Northrop Grumman)
     (______+)  J. Bhasker (eSilicon)
Agenda:
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Agenda:
  Call to order
    - Attendance Roll Call
    - Patent Policy and Letters of Assurance
    - Approve Agenda
    - Approve Minutes of Last Meeting
  Old Business
    - Membership Issue Update
    - Schedule Review
    - IEEE Support Services Update
  Subcommittee Reports
    - Issues Subcommittee
    - Extensions Subcommittee
    - LRM Subcommittee
  New Business
  Next Meeting
  Adjourn
    - Attendance Roll Call
Call to order:
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The meeting was called to order at 8:05am PST.  
Attendance was recorded via roll call.
The IEEE patent policy slides were presented.  The working group was advised that the IEEE's Patent Policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy; that early disclosure of patents which may be essential for the use of standards under development is encouraged; that such disclosures may not be exhaustive; and that the IEEE, the working group, and the working group chair cannot ensure the accuracy of completeness of any disclosure.  An opportunity was provided for the working group members to disclose patents that might be essential for use of PSL.  No patents were disclosed.
The agenda was approved. (Motion: Erich; second: Avigail: no objections)
The minutes of the last meeting were approved.  (Motion: Erich; second: Yaron; no objections)
Old Business:
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1. Membership Issue Update
Pending action items:
AI: Erich to propose revised text to clarify P&Ps [to reflect intent of membership = voting priveleges].
AI: Johan M. to work with Erich to propose such an amendment [to accelerate membership of new IEEE-SA members].
No progress on these action items since last week.  (Working on higher priority tasks instead.)
Immediately after this meeting, Infineon will become a Member of the IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group, after having attended two successive meetings as a coporate IEEE-SA member company, as required in the WG's current Policies and Procedures.  Klaus Winkelmann will be the DR for Infineon.
2. Schedule Review
The schedule spreadsheet has been updated, and can be reviewed at: 
  http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850/docs/P1850-Schedule.xls 
The current plan is to review the schedule with Andrew Ickowicz from IEEE, 
and make changes based on his feedback. 
Key upcoming events include December 15, review proposed LRM wording 
changes, and December 30, final review of proposed LRM wording changes. 
3. IEEE Support Services
Yaron described the summary of a meeting held with Mr. Edward Rashba, Manager of New Programs at IEEE.  This meeting with Edward was held following an earlier WG officers' meeting, in which Yaron was asked to communicate the needs of the WG to Edward and learn about the specifics of the IEEE proposal.
Also present in the meeting with Edward were Gary Lipson from IBM and Victor Berman from Accellera.  (Victor was asked by Accellera to participate, as Accellera is considering to further fund the work of this WG.)
Representing the officers, Yaron has communicated to Edward that the WG is not interested in:
- Draft Document Support
- Marketing Support
- Travel
- Publication Support
and that, subject to affordability, the WG might be interested in
- Project Management
- Process Support
- eBallot Support
IEEE will review the inputs, and is expected to return with a revised proposal, better tuned to our needs, within one week.
Subcommittee Reports:
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1. Issues Subcommittee (Erich)
No new issues received this past week.  Still planning to get caught up on additional issues that have been submitted by 1 Dec
Pending action items:
AI: Erich to look into SystemVerilog issue tracking mechanism
(No progress on this.)
2. Extensions Subcommittee (Erich)
Discussed two more groups of issues last week - group F (built-in function return types in the VHDL flavor, and interpretation of 'H' and 'L' values as Booleans) and group I (issues related to forall).  
It has become clear that the Extensions SC must also develop detailed LRM change proposals, since implementation of decisions may have consequences in other areas.  In this week's meeting we will review the status and look for volunteers to drive creation of LRM change proposals that implement the subcommittee's decisions.
3. LRM Subcommittee (Harry)
An initial draft of the LRM is now posted on the web, in PDF form, password-protected.  The password was announced in the meeting.  If you missed it, contact Harry.
The LRM subcommittee will meet next Thursday, 2 December, at 8am PST.  The goal will be to organize the development of LRM change proposals for the issues that have been forwarded to the LRM subcommittee.  Teleconference information and agenda will be forwarded shortly.
New Business:
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None.
Next Meeting:
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The next meeting of the working group will be held on Tuesday November 30 from 8am-10am PDT.  Agenda and teleconference information will be sent out shortly.
Adjournment
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Attendance was checked again, by roll call.
Motion to adjourn - (motion: Klaus; second: Steve; no objections)
The meeting was adjourned at 8:23am PST.
(A meeting of the Extensions SC followed the WG meeting, from 8:23am until 9:50am PST.)
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