[$ieee-1850] IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting - 30 November - Minutes

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IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting
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Location: Teleconference
Date: 30 Nov 2004
Presiding Officer:  Harry Foster, Chair
Secretary:  Erich Marschner
Website: http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850
Members:
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  Accellera          DR: Harry Foster
  Cadence            DR: Erich Marschner;       DRA: Steve Ward
  IBM                DR: Yaron Wolfsthal;       DRAs: Avigail Orni, Cindy Eisner, 
                                                      Sitvanit Ruah, Dana Fisman
  Mentor Graphics    DR: Steve Bailey;          DRA: Tej Singh
  Synopsys           DR: Surrendra Dudani;      DRA: Oz Levia
  Infineon           DR: Klaus Winkelmann
Attendance Record:
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  Key:
      v : member (= voting priveleges) during this meeting
      + : present (leftmost = most recent meeting)
      _ : absent
  Members:
v    (+++++_++)  Accellera (DR: Harry Foster)
v    (++++++++)  Cadence (DR: Erich Marschner)
v    (++++++++)  IBM (DR: Yaron Wolfsthal) 
v    (++++++++)  Mentor Graphics (DR: Steve Bailey) (rep. by DRA: Tej Singh)
v    (_+_+++++)  Synopsys (DR: Surrendra Dudani)
v    (_+++_+__)  Infineon (DR: Klaus Winkelmann)
  Observers:
     (++++++++)  Avigail Orni (IBM)
     (++++++++)  Johan Mårtenson (Safelogic)
     (++++_+++)  Johan Alfredson (Safelogic)
     (+++++++_)  Tej Singh (Mentor)
     (++_+++++)  Joseph Lu (NVidia)
     (++_+__++)  Sitvanit Ruah (IBM)
     (++_+++++)  Mohamed-Lyes Benalycherif (ST)
     (++_+____)  Andrea Fedeli
     (++__++++)  Dana Fisman (IBM/Weizmann Institute)
     (++__++++)  Bassam Tabbara (Novas)
     (+_++++++)  Tom Thatcher (Sun)
     (+_++++__)  Jari Kalinainen (Nokia)
     (+_++_+__)  Adriana Maggiore (AltraVerifica)
     (_++_+++_)  Andrew Seawright (Mentor)
     (_+__+___)  Makarand Joshi (Cadence)
     (__+_+___)  Cindy Eisner (IBM)
     (___+_+__)  Steve Ward (Cadence)
   Inactive:
     (_____+__)  Limor Fix (Intel)
     (______++)  Jin Hou (Synopsys)
     (______++)  Peter Flake (Synopsys)
     (______++)  Ben Cohen (consultant)
     (______+_)  Richard Wallace (Northrop Grumman)
     (_______+)  J. Bhasker (eSilicon)
Agenda:
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Agenda:
  Call to order
    - Attendance Roll Call
    - Patent Policy and Letters of Assurance
    - Approve Agenda
    - Approve Minutes of Last Meeting
  Old Business
    - Membership Issue Update
    - Schedule Review
    - IEEE Support Services Update
  Subcommittee Reports
    - Issues Subcommittee
    - Extensions Subcommittee
    - LRM Subcommittee
  New Business
    - Balloting Process and Subcommittee
  Next Meeting
  Adjourn
    - Attendance Roll Call
Call to order:
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The meeting was called to order at 8:04am PST.  
Attendance was recorded via roll call.
The IEEE patent policy slides were presented.  The working group was advised that the IEEE's Patent Policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy; that early disclosure of patents which may be essential for the use of standards under development is encouraged; that such disclosures may not be exhaustive; and that the IEEE, the working group, and the working group chair cannot ensure the accuracy of completeness of any disclosure.  An opportunity was provided for the working group members to disclose patents that might be essential for use of PSL.  No patents were disclosed.
An additional agenda item was added: discussion of the balloting process, and formation of a Balloting Subcommittee.
The agenda was approved, with the additional item. (Motion: Erich; second: Joseph: no objections)
The minutes of the last meeting were approved.  (Motion: Yaron; second: Tej; no objections)
Old Business:
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1. Membership Issue Update
Infineon is now a member of the working group.  
Pending action items:
AI: Erich to propose revised text to clarify P&Ps [to reflect intent of membership = voting priveleges].
AI: Johan M. to work with Erich to propose such an amendment [to accelerate membership of new IEEE-SA members].
No progress on these action items since last week.  (Working on higher priority tasks instead.)
2. Schedule Review
The schedule spreadsheet is posted on the web, at: 
  http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850/docs/P1850-Schedule.xls 
Draft LRM changes are due by December 15, and final changes by December 30. 
Harry plans to review the schedule with Andrew Ickowicz from IEEE this week, and update it as necessary. 
3. IEEE Support Services
Yaron summarized the state of discussions with Edward Rashba regarding funded services.  
A revised proposal was received early last week.  The officers reviewed the revised proposal and came up with a list of issues, including
 
 - period of performance
 - unnecessary support for document development and publication
 - details of what project management will involve
 - details of the eballoting process and the support that will be provided
 - parties to the contract
These issues were communicated to Edward on Monday 29 Nov.  A teleconference to resolve these issues is scheduled for Wednesday Dec. 1.
Subcommittee Reports:
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1. Issues Subcommittee (Erich)
The Issues List has been updated and posted on the web, at http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850/Issues/Issues.html.
Pending action items:
AI: Erich to look into SystemVerilog issue tracking mechanism
Instead, Erich decided to manage the process using a manually-constructed set of web pages.  This gives us more flexibility, and should be sufficient since we are tracking a much smaller number of issues than the SystemVerilog working group is tracking.
2. Extensions Subcommittee (Erich)
As part of the Issues list web page, a page has been constructed for each Issues Group being considered by the Extensions SC.  Each of these pages contains (or will contain) links to the issues that belong to the Group, a summary of the discussion of these issues, the resolutions that resulted from the discussion, and (eventually) the LRM changes proposed to implement the resolutions.
3. LRM Subcommittee (Harry)
The LRM subcommittee plans to meet on Thursday, 2 December, at 8am PST.  The goal will be to organize the development of LRM change proposals for the issues that have been forwarded to the LRM subcommittee.  
New Business:
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1. Balloting process and subcommittee
Erich raised the issue that we need to begin preparing for the balloting process, so we understand what is involved, regardless of whether we execute the process ourselves or have IEEE run the process for us.  Formation of a subcommittee to study the IEEE balloting process and report back to the working group was proposed.  However, no one volunteered to participate in such a subcommittee.  Instead, it was suggested that all working group participants review the information on the IEEE web pages before the next meeting, so we could have a more thorough consideration of the issue in the next meeting.
AI: Erich to send out link to IEEE web pages describing the balloting process
 - See http://standards.ieee.org/resources/development/balloting/index.html.
Next Meeting:
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The next meeting of the working group will be held on Tuesday December 7 from 8am-10am PDT.  Harry will be unavailable for the next meeting, so Yaron will act as Chair.  Agenda and teleconference information will be sent out shortly.
A brief discussion of holidays in December resulted in the conclusion that holidays will not interfere with holding working group meetings, so we will continue to hold meetings every Tuesday throughout December.  
Adjournment
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Attendance was checked again, by roll call.
Motion to adjourn - (motion: Yaron; second: Erich; no objections)
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:30am PST.
(A meeting of the Extensions SC followed the WG meeting, from 8:30am until 10:05am PST.)
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