[$ieee-1850] IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting - 4 January 05 - Minutes

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IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting
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Location: Teleconference
Date: 4 January 2005
Presiding Officer:  Harry Foster, Chair
Secretary:  Erich Marschner
Website: http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850
Members:
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  Accellera          DR: Harry Foster           DRA: Victor Berman
  Cadence            DR: Erich Marschner;       DRA: Steve Ward
  IBM                DR: Yaron Wolfsthal;       DRAs: Avigail Orni, Cindy Eisner, 
                                                      Sitvanit Ruah, Dana Fisman
  Mentor Graphics    DR: Steve Bailey;          DRA: Tej Singh
  Synopsys           DR: Surrendra Dudani;      DRA: Oz Levia
  Nokia              DR: Jari Kalinainen
Lapsed:
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  Infineon           DR: Klaus Winkelmann
Attendance Record:
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  Key:
      v : member (= voting priveleges) during this meeting
      + : present (leftmost = most recent meeting)
      _ : absent
  Members:
v    (+++_+++++_++)  Accellera (DR: Harry Foster) 
v    (++++++++++++)  Cadence (DR: Erich Marschner)
v    (++++++++++++)  IBM (DR: Yaron Wolfsthal)
v    (++++++++++++)  Mentor Graphics (DR: Steve Bailey) (rep. by DRA: Tej Singh)
v    (++++_+_+++++)  Synopsys (DR: Surrendra Dudani)
v    (+++++_++++__)  Nokia (DR: Jari Kalinainen)
     (__+__+++_+__)  Infineon (DR: Klaus Winkelmann)
  Observers:
     (++++++++++++)  Johan Mårtenson (Safelogic)
     (++++++++_+++)  Johan Alfredson (Safelogic)
     (++_++++++++_)  Tej Singh (Mentor)
     (++____+_+___)  Cindy Eisner (IBM)
     (+_+_++_+++++)  Mohamed-Lyes Benalycherif (ST)
     (+___++_+____)  Andrea Fedeli
     (_++_+_++++++)  Tom Thatcher (Sun)
     (__++++++++++)  Avigail Orni (IBM)
     (__++++_+__++)  Sitvanit Ruah (IBM)
   Inactive:
     (___+++__++++)  Dana Fisman (IBM/Weizmann Institute)
     (___+_++_+++_)  Andrew Seawright (Mentor)
     (____++_+++++)  Joseph Lu (NVidia)
     (____++__++++)  Bassam Tabbara (Novas)
     (____+_++_+__)  Adriana Maggiore (AltraVerifica)
     (_____+__+___)  Makarand Joshi (Cadence)
     (_______+_+__)  Steve Ward (Cadence)
     (_________+__)  Limor Fix (Intel)
     (__________++)  Jin Hou (Synopsys)
     (__________++)  Peter Flake (Synopsys)
     (__________++)  Ben Cohen (consultant)
     (__________+_)  Richard Wallace (Northrop Grumman)
     (___________+)  J. Bhasker (eSilicon)
Agenda:
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Agenda: 
  Call to order 
    - Attendance Roll Call 
    - Patent Policy and Letters of Assurance 
    - Approve Agenda 
    - Approve Minutes of Last Meeting
  Old Business 
    - Membership Issue Update 
    - Schedule Review 
    - IEEE Support Services Update 
    - Coordination with Other IEEE Working Groups
  Subcommittee Reports 
    - Issues Subcommittee 
    - Extensions Subcommittee 
    - LRM Subcommittee
  New Business
  Next Meeting
  Adjourn 
    - Attendance Roll Call 
Call to order:
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The meeting was called to order at 8:03am PST.  
Attendance was recorded via roll call.
The IEEE patent policy slides were presented.  The working group was advised that the IEEE's Patent Policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy; that early disclosure of patents which may be essential for the use of standards under development is encouraged; that such disclosures may not be exhaustive; and that the IEEE, the working group, and the working group chair cannot ensure the accuracy or completeness of any disclosure.  An opportunity was provided for the working group members to disclose patents that might be essential for use of PSL.  No patents were disclosed.
The agenda was approved. (Motion: Erich; second: Tej: no objections)
The minutes of the last meeting were approved.  (Motion: Erich; second: Tej; no objections)
Old Business:
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1. Membership Issue Update
The P&Ps were revised on 21 Dec 2004 to reflect P&P changes approved in the meeting on that date.  They still need to be posted on the web, and approved by the sponsors.
Action Item:
 - Harry to post updated P&Ps on the web - still pending
 - Harry to ask sponsors to review them  - still pending
We will also need to update P&Ps to reflect decision to charge membership fee, which should now become an additional requirement for membership.  (See below)
2. Schedule Review
The schedule spreadsheet is posted on the web, at: 
  http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850/docs/P1850-Schedule.xls 
Draft LRM changes were due by December 15, and final changes are due by December 30.  We have some draft changes in hand, but others are still pending.
We need to finalize all LRM changes that are to go into the LRM for the short-term goal of approval by June 2005.  New issues introduced after January 18th 2005, or still left unresolved after that date, will not be considered for inclusion in the June LRM.  
The Extensions Subcommittee will define LRM changes in detail, enough to be plugged into the LRM directly without further elaboration.  The LRM Subcommittee will review the updated LRM after Harry applies the approved changes.
3. IEEE Support Services
Harry/Yaron met with Dennis Brophy of Accellera to work out details of membership fee collection.  Accellera will act as our Treasurer.  Yaron is working out the details.
Action Item:
 - Harry to propose wording to update P&Ps to add membership fee.
4. Coordination with Other IEEE Working Groups
Coordination with IEEE 1666 SystemC
 - no update
Coordination with IEEE 1800 SystemVerilog
 - no update
Coordination with IEEE 1076 VHDL
 - no update
Subcommittee Reports:
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1. Issues Subcommittee (Erich)
The Issues List (at http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850/Issues/Issues.html) still remains to be updated.  A few new issues were reported.
2. Extensions Subcommittee (Erich)
In last week's meeting, the Extensions Subcommittee focused on parameterized and/or operators and data type extensions for parameters.
3. LRM Subcommittee (Harry)
No activity.
New Business:
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None.
Next Meeting:
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The next meeting of the working group will be held on Tuesday January 11, 2005 starting at 8am PDT, and lasting approximately 30 minutes, with an Extensions SC meeting continuing afterwards until 10am PDT.  Agenda and teleconference information will be sent out shortly.
Adjournment
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Attendance was checked again, by roll call.
Motion to adjourn - (motion: Cindy; second: Tej; no objections)
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:18am PST.
(A meeting of the Extensions SC followed the WG meeting, from 8:18am until 10:00am PST.)
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