[$ieee-1850] IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting - 19 Dec 2006 - Minutes

IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting 
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Location: Teleconference 
Date: 19 December 2006 

Presiding Officer: Harry Foster, Chair 
Secretary: Erich Marschner 

Website: http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850 

Members: 
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  Accellera 		DR: open;             DRA: Victor Berman 
  Cadence 		DR: Erich Marschner;  DRA: Steve Ward 
  IBM 			DR: Avigail Orni;     DRAs: Cindy Eisner, Sitvanit Ruah, 
                                                 Dana Fisman 
* Mentor Graphics 	DR: Harry Foster;     DRA: Tej Singh 
  Synopsys 		DR: Surrendra Dudani
* Nokia 		DR: open 
  Jasper	 	DR: Johan Mårtenson;  DRA: Johan Alfredsson 
  Sun 			DR: Tom Thatcher 
  Intel 		DR: Dmitry Korchemny; DRA: Alexander Levin

* membership lapsed due to missing 2 or more consecutive meetings

Attendees:
  Harry, Erich, Richard, Surrendra, Sitvanit, Avigail, Dana, Dmitry P.

Attendance Record: 
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Key: 
v : member (= voting priveleges) during this meeting 
+ : present 
_ : absent 
- : absent (but optional meeting) 

Leftmost char = most recent meeting 
| : approval of IEEE 1850 PSL (22 Sep 05) 
* : official meeting - counts towards membership 
- : unofficial meeting - does not affect membership 

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Members: 
v (__++++|++++++_++++_+++++_++) Accellera (DR: open) 
v (++++++|++++++++++++++++++++) Cadence (DR: Erich Marschner)
v (++++++|++++++++++++++++++++) IBM (DR: Avigail Orni)
  (++____|++++_+++++++++++++++) Mentor Graphics (DR: Harry Foster)
v (+++_++|++++++++++++_+_+++++) Synopsys (DR: Surrendra Dudani) 
  (____++|+++++++++++++_++++__) Nokia (DR: Jari Kalinainen) 
v (_+++++|++++++++++++++++++++) Jasper (DR: Johan Mårtenson) 
v (__+_++|++++++++_++_+_++++++) Sun (DR: Tom Thatcher) 
v (_+++++|+++_++______________) Intel (DR: Dmitry Korchemny)

Note: The attendance record has been corrected to show that Harry Foster
has represented Mentor starting with the 24 October 2006 meeting.  Also,
the record now shows attendance of the individuals, as well as the 
attendance of Members (represented by individuals), in order to better
cope with changes in affiliation and representation.

Representatives:
  (++++++|++++++_++++_+++++_++) Harry Foster (Mentor Graphics)
  (++++++|++++++++++++++++++++) Erich Marschner (Cadence)
  (++++++|+++___++__++++++++++) Avigail Orni (IBM) 
  (+++_++|++++++++++++_+_+++++) Surrendra Dudani (Synopsys) 
  (_+++++|++++++++++++++++++++) Johan Mårtenson (Jasper) 
  (__+_++|++++++++_++_+_++++++) Tom Thatcher (Sun) 

Observers: 
  (++++++|__________++++_+__++) Sitvanit Ruah (IBM) 
  (+_+_++|____________________) Dmitry Pidan (IBM)
  (+__+++|___+_+++__________+_) Richard Wallace (Northrop Grumman) 
  (+__+_+|_+_+_______+++__++++) Dana Fisman (IBM/Weizmann Institute) 
  (_+++++|++++++++++++++++++++) Yaron Wolfsthal (IBM)
  (_+++++|_++_++++++____+_+___) Cindy Eisner (IBM) 
  (_+++++|____________________) Dmitry Korchemny (Intel)
  (_++_+_|+++_________________) Sylvain Boucher (Philips) 
  (_+___+|++___________+__+___) Makarand Joshi (Cadence) 

Inactive: 
  (____++|___++_+_____++_+++++) Joseph Lu (Altera) 
  (____++|____________________) Elaine Leingang (SanDisk)
  (____+_|_______+__+__+++_+__) Klaus Winkelmann (OneSpin Solutions) 
  (____++|+++++++++++++_++++__) Jari Kalinainen (Nokia) 
  (_____+|____+++++___++_+____) Andrea Fedeli (ST) 
  (______|++++_+++++++++++++++) Steve Bailey (Mentor Graphics)
  (______|+++_++______________) Alex Levin (Intel)
  (______|++++_+++++_++++++++_) Tej Singh (Mentor) 
  (______|__++_++____+_++_+++_) Andrew Seawright (Mentor) 
  (______|__++_+_++_+_++_+++++) Mohamed-Lyes Benalycherif (ST) 
  (______|__+__+______++__++++) Bassam Tabbara (Novas (now Synopsys)) 
  (______|__+____________+_+__) Steve Ward (Cadence) 
  (______|_____+++++++++++_+++) Johan Alfredson (Jasper) 
  (______|______++____+_++_+__) Adriana Maggiore (OneSpin Solutions) 
  (______|_________________+__) Limor Fix (Intel) 
  (______|__________________++) Jin Hou (Synopsys) 
  (______|__________________++) Peter Flake (Synopsys (now Imperas)) 
  (______|__________________++) Ben Cohen (consultant) 
  (______|___________________+) J. Bhasker (eSilicon) 


Agenda: 
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Agenda:
   Call to order
     - Attendance Roll Call
     - Patent Policy 
       (at some point, need to discuss new policy)
     - Approve Agenda
     - Approve Minutes of Last Meeting
   New Business
     - Election results
     - 2007 planning, budgeting, scheduling
       (participation dues, service budgeting if needed)
     - Updated the Project Authorization Request (PAR) 
   Old Business
   Subcommittee Reports
     - Issues Subcommittee
   Next Meeting
   Adjourn
     - Attendance Roll Call

Call to order: 
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The meeting was called to order at 8:07am PST. 

Attendance was recorded via roll call. 

The IEEE patent policy slides were presented. The working group was advised 
that the IEEE's Patent Policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy; that 
early disclosure of patents which may be essential for the use of standards 
under development is encouraged; that such disclosures may not be exhaustive; 
and that the IEEE, the working group, and the working group chair cannot ensure 
the accuracy or completeness of any disclosure. An opportunity was provided for 
the working group members to disclose patents that might be essential for use 
of PSL.  No patents were disclosed. 

The IEEE has recently updated its patent policy.  As soon as 

The agenda was approved.  (Motion: Richard; second: Surrendra; no objections)

The minutes of the last meeting (24 Oct) were approved.  
(Motion: Erich, second: Richard; no objections)

Old Action Items: 
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none

New Action Items: 
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New Business: 
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1. Election of Officers
Harry, Avigail, Erich were elected.

2. Budgeting
IEEE is now charging each entity that is a member of IEEE-SA a fee of $3750 to 
participate in a working group, starting in 2007.  Working group fees gives an
entity the right to vote within the working group.

From http://standards.ieee.org/corpforum/participation/faq.html:
"The IEEE-SA Board of Governors approved a required US $3750 annualized fee per 
organization (entity) participant each year for the life of an entity-based project. 
An entity-based project is one where the persons involved represent organizations, 
companies, governmental bodies, etc. This is distinct from the individual method of 
participation. The US $3750 fee covers basic assistance to facilitate the start-up 
of the project, as well as general oversight during the development of the project."

Harry will try to get more clarification on this.

There was general agreement in the working group that this requirement should not
be applied to non-voting observers, who might otherwise be driven away from 
participating in the committee.

3. Development Schedule

Harry proposed targeting June 2008 for the next LRM.  This will give time for a
thorough development effort, rather than a schedule-driven effort focused on simple
fixes.  The working group generally agreed to this.  Surrendra suggested that we 
also post a list of problem resolutions (LRM changes) for public consumption in the
mean time.  This will also help us keep track of what will need to go into the LRM
in the next revision.

The general consensus is to focus on content during 2007 and LRM editing and balloting
in the first half of 2008.

Harry will now update the PAR to reflect this schedule.

Old Business: 
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none.

Subcommittee Reports: 
===================== 
Issues:

Discussing formal semantics of action blocks.
Planning to work on new architecture for vunits.

Next Meeting: 
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The next full working group meeting will occur on Tuesday 30 January 2007, at 8am PDT.  
The next Issues subcommittee meeting will occur on Tuesday 9 January 2007, at 8am PDT.

Adjournment:
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Richard motioned for adjournment, seconded by both Avigail.
The meeting was adjourned at approximately 8:43am PDT. 

Roll-call

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