I'll start thing going. Although I have discussed these issues in general with Ajay, this represents my own opinion. Others will have to state their individual opinions. Also, I don't vote on ISAC issues, unless there is a tie, which hasn't occurred for many years. The IR deals with the technical issue of exactly when in the simulation cycle a process resumes. Specifically, does it resume when an event occurs on a signal in the sensitivity clause or when such an event occurs and, in addition, the condition clause evaluates to TRUE. Currently, this is important only for determining when a vhpiCbResume occurs (and possibly when a corresponding vhpiCbSuspend occurs). The VHPI indicated that a suspended process resumes (proposed LRM wording) "as a result of an event occurring on any signal in the sensitivity set of the wait statement...." In addition to this decision, the VHPI also stated (proposed LRM wording) "An implementation may optimize execution of a wait statement in such a way as to obviate some or all resumptions of the suspended process due to events on signals in the sensitivity set provided that, when an event occurs on any signal in the sensitivity set and that event would result in the condition in the condition clause evaluating to TRUE, the process does resume." This change is worrisome to me. I think that it is poor language design because it allows non-portable implementations at the wrong level. The VHPI has many implementation dependent features, but, as far as I can tell, no others that affect whether or not a callback is made. I can think of two similar situations. First, many optimized executions do not do "required" range checks. I believe that this is perfectly acceptable, but we don't add wording to the standard stating that such implementations may skip these tests. The second situation is event suppression. At first I was going to say that no simulation would ever suppress an event, but I realized that for performance reasons events are often suppressed, but only if their suppression is not detectable to the user. In my opinion, the proposed paragraph exposes a detectable non-portable situation. The ISAC believed that VASG voters should be aware of this situation when they vote on this proposed language change. There are some secondary issues which will probably come to the surface in this discussion, but I'm trying to concentrate on the most important cause of contention. Chuck Swart -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Thu Apr 3 17:35:45 2008
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