Subject: Meeting Minutes: SCE-API 2-4-03
From: Stickley, John (john_stickley@mentorg.com)
Date: Tue Feb 04 2003 - 12:57:26 PST
Attendees:
Duaine Pryor - Mentor Graphics
Jan Johnson - Mentor Graphics
Brian Bailey - Mentor Graphics
Farid Morsi - Aptix
Richard Newell - Aptix
Steve Wang - Axis
Jason Andrews - Axis
Joe Daniels
John Stickley - Mentor Graphics
- Duaine stated that the intent was to broaden discussion to decide
next steps - what donations to consider, how to orchestrate
follow-on efforts.
- Discussed motion to separate out transactor piece from the rest
of the API as proposed by Axis.
- Duaine identified need to reach out better to transactor writers.
- Steve added that similar efforts should be made to reach out
to TestBench writers and Vendors alike.
- Richard identified the need to be able to develop and debug models
on platforms other than emulator platforms.
- Duaine mentioned that perhaps part of the problem is that is is
not clear from the specification that the API is designed to work
just as well in HDL software simulator environments as it does
in emulator environments. Certainly it is optimized for high
performance transaction communications which obviously benefits
emulators but it has also been found to optimize communications
with industry HDL software simulators as well, as compared to say
models based on the signal oriented PLI API.
- Duaine also mentioned that there's a binary reference model
available from Mentor that demonstrates use of SCE-MI over
any HDL Verilog simulator.
- Axis also raised a concern that they feel there is too much
awareness of clocks in the API and that such awareness is
not relevant to defining an API to a C testbench.
- Richard Newell added that the goals should focus more on defining
an interface and less on awareness of clock and clock defs.
- Brian suggested having a workshop to gather input from others
in the industry about what is missing and what additional
requirements need to be addressed by the API.
- Brian suggested that Duaine give a tutorial to a broader group
about what SCE-MI is as preparation for getting more input about
additional requirements and what is missing.
- In the audience we need, in particular, more representation from
transactor model builders and testbench writers. Also HVL language
providers.
- ACTION: Jan and Steve to work together to organize this workshop.
- Brian said we should target the workshop for the April or May
timeframe before the effort becomes stale - preferably April.
- Steve said he might be able to procure funding for the workshop
from the Accellera organization.
- We will do a followup meeting in 2 weeks to discuss plans for workshop.
- Brian updated on status of current specification
- The spec is being sent out to all committee chairs under
Accellera for review, feedback, and votes of approval.
- They will have a month to do this.
-- johnS
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