RE: ITC Meeting Minutes for May 26th

Hi Brian,

I have passed your email on to the ATI guys, so hopefully they should reply,

Donald

Donald Cramb
Director System Integration Services
Tharas Systems
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-----Original Message-----
From: owner-itc@eda.org [mailto:owner-itc@eda.org] On Behalf Of Brian Bailey
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 8:13 AM
To: 'Deneault, Damian'; itc@eda.org
Subject: RE: ITC Meeting Minutes for May 26th

        Hi Damian
            Thank you for the minutes and keeping the committee on track.
Last week there was an unfortunate delay with the airlines that kept me
away. Unfortunately, I am scheduled to be on a plane tomorrow during the
call and so Damian will again be leading the group.
        
        Thinking ahead for the next few meetings. The 9th should be back to
normal for me. The following week is DAC. How many people will be involved
with that? 
        
        Thanks
        Brian
        P.S. Did the ATI guys leave you any email address or does anyone
know them. I would like to get them on the reflector.
        
        -----Original Message-----
From: owner-itc@eda.org [mailto:owner-itc@eda.org] On Behalf Of Deneault,
Damian
Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 7:47 AM
To: 'itc@eda.org'
Subject: ITC Meeting Minutes for May 26th
        
        
        ITC Meeting Minutes for May 26th
        
        Attendees
        
        Duaine Pryor - Mentor
        John Stickley - Mentor
        Jeff Evans - Mentor
        Matt Kopser - Cadence
        Richard Newell - Aptix
        Damian Deneault - Zaiq
        Per Bojsen - Zaiq
        Tom Peng - Zaiq
        Jason Rothfuss - Cadence
        Russ Vreeland - Broadcom
        Sanjay Sawant - Tharas
        Donald Cramb - Tharas
        Bryan Sniderman - ATI
        Edmund Fong - ATI
        
        Activity
        
        The Mentor proposal was discussed further, both addressing
individual
        questions raised and exploring it in general. Topics included:
        - the mixing of old (SCEMI 1.x) models with DPI based models, how
        to understand any interaction between them, what interaction is or 
        isn't allowed, and whether reducing allowed interaction would be a
        good simplification. John S promised written document or example
        clarifying interaction and the retained elements of SCEMI 1.x
        - existence of uncontrolled time with uncontrolled time, how to
handle
        it in the Mentor proposal, and whether the correlating questions
exist
        with the Cadence proposal
        - the current precision of the combination DPI spec plus Mentor
proposal
        for non System Verilog language/RTL combinations
        - a previous request was repeated for a complete example
        
        Cadence plans to deliver a written document to explain or rebut
        some comments on their proposal. This should be posted or emailed
and
        then followed up with discussion.
        
        The idea of a compromise or merged proposal was raised by Richard N,

        and anyone is invited to come in with ideas for that at the next
meeting.
        
        In order to plan the evaluation and decision process, Damian
requested
        that all participants come to the next meeting with their input on 
        what specifically they feel should be discussed, explored or
clarified
        before we can come to a decision or vote. We will try to lay out the
        remaining decision process and timeline at the next meeting.
        
        The next meeting is Thursday 6/2 at the usual 12pm/9am time.
        
        Action Items
        
        1. Cadence (Matt K) will post a written response document, before 
        the 6/2 meeting.
        
        2. Mentor (John S) will provide a document clarifying the portions
of
        SCEMI 1.x that are retained as part of the DPI based proposal, prior
to
        the 6/2 meeting.
        
        3. Mentor (John S) will provide a complete example.
        
        4. All participants come prepared to identify remaing discussion or
        evaluation tasks at the 6/2 meeting.