Russ, [Shabtay] The scenario that you described illustrates the importance of "reactivity control" that I described in the paper. In the scenario that you have presented, the end user should not modify the default setting of the channel as using a reactive test on a "batched" channel can yield a dead lock. On the other hand, it's quite possible that the software side monitors certain interfaces independently wrt others. Under this scenario, delayed arrival is acceptable to the test as Per pointed out. I already agreed with you that the determinism should be the default. But I don't think that it will satisfy end user performance goals if SCE-MI will be unnecessarily constrained. Many testbenches are either not fully reactive and some are even non-reactive at all. I thus think that it is important that we provide the "knobs" to users to obtain higher level of performance knowing the characteristics of their specific test environment. While we do that, we should also make sure that modelers who create transactors for both simulation and acceleration mode are not negatively impacted due to these performance optimizations. Batching allows for performance optimization and yet doesn't impede on the portability of transactors from simulation to acceleration and from once accelerated environment to another. Let me know if you disagree with this. If a user uses those knobs and introduces the slightest indeterminism, he might as well just put the system in free running mode and forget about knobs. Wouldn't this be easier for a not fully reactive testbench? [Shabtay] The only difference is that I'd like to also see queuing implemented in alternative mode. I'd like to see a knob that puts an interface into a careful streaming mode that guarantees determinism. [Shabtay] I have not seen any lack of determinism when queuing is used in alternating mode. Same transactors could run in both modes and also in simulation and acceleration mode. Results are consistent. If the user wants to turn queuing OFF, this could be done even during run time. Is a "free running mode" knob something we've overlooked? I've just assumed the ability to turn off clock control (or the SCEMI 2.0 equivalent of it) but all we've discussed is the knob to turn on/off streaming for a particular interface suibable for streaming. I would support this 2nd "knob", but I would contend it would negate the need for any others. [Shabtay] Seems like more room for discussion then, as I am supporting a superset of what you are suggesting. Maybe it could be an argument to scemi->Init(); [Shabtay] This is one option. > >Per > >Received on Tue Jun 21 16:22:09 2005
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