RE: Meeting Minutes

Hi Brian,

I would like to add that another interest of recording the calls is in term
of complete understanding of the discussion especially for the non-native
english speakers. An authentificated access for the download could be setup
to better take into account the participation to the activity regarding new
voting rules.


Scemi 2.0 is to be considered as an extension of scemi 1.1 which aims to
facilitate the use and the development of co-emulation transactional
interfaces.

The key points seen to keep coherency with scemi 1.1:

- in term of compatibility and evolution:
* Ability to easily reuse all the scemi 1.1 transactors and the C++ API in
combination with the new "transactors/function calls" and the new SW API.
* The new SW API must not imply the use of SV/DPIO: 
=> an (efficient) C++ (or C) API is mandatory (and find a way to cope with
scope management if necessary)
* The new transactors "transactors/function calls" need to be defined and
exist in both typical languages as VHDL and Verilog.


- in term of performances and use model:
* Having two level of running modes:
** One which is determinist (essential for an efficient debug)
** One which may not be determinist (on cycle base) but aiming at speed
performances and for which concurrent execution on HW and SW side are
certainly the key points for optimizing the impact of synchronization.

* Preserving scemi 1.1 compatibility as it allows to use the uclock which is
free running:
** It allows to interface with an external target taking into account
real-time issue
** It allows to perform complex message generation or processing within an
undefined number of DUV clock cycles.

Best regards,

Joseph Bulone

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-itc@eda.org [mailto:owner-itc@eda.org] On Behalf Of Brian Bailey
Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 6:04 PM
To: itc@eda.org
Subject: FW: Meeting Minutes


        From: Michael Frank BENJAMIN [mailto:mike.benjamin@st.com] 
Sent: Monday, July 11, 2005 9:16 AM
To: brian_bailey@acm.org
Cc: Mike Benjamin; Joseph Bulone (Joseph Bulone)
Subject: RE: Meeting Minutes
        
        Hi Brian,
        
        Meeting time works quite well for me as this in end of working day
in UK.
        Not so good for France/rest of Europe where they are 1 hour ahead.
        
        Recorded calls would certainly be usefull. I am trying to attend
meetings to
        get up to speed on the discussion but for example next Thursday I
will be
        flying to Italy and so will miss the scheduled meeting.
        
        I have 2 specific issues that I would like addressed by SCE-MI 2.0.
These
        are requirements rather than implementation issues as I am
approaching this
        as a customer. Hopefully members of the committee will come up with
good
        ways of adapting the Mentor proposal to satisfy these 'user' issues:
        
        1) Backwards compatability with SCE-MI 1.1, possibly through
        adaption/wrapper ie: easy migration path for existing users. ST is
already
        doing a lot with SCE-MI and we do not want to have to throw this
away in
        order to move to SCE-MI 2.0
        
        3) Consistent support for VHDL, Verilog and SystermVerilog. I hope
this is
        adequately addressed by the discussion of a "functional call
interface
        available in each language"
        
        Joseph Bulone (who manages my emulation team) will send a list of
more
        specific issues eg: impact of limiting clock control.
        
        Regards,
             Mike Benajmin
        
        STMicroelectronics,
        Mail: 1000 Aztec West, Bristol BS32 4SQ, UK
        Email: mike.benjamin@st.com
        Phone:  +44 1454 462469
        Fax:    +44 1454 462305
        Mobile: +44 7768 025437
        
        
        > -----Original Message-----
        > From: owner-itc@eda.org [mailto:owner-itc@eda.org] On Behalf 
        > Of Brian Bailey
        > Sent: 30 June 2005 18:35
        > To: itc@eda.org
        > Subject: Meeting Minutes
        > 
        > 
        >         Here are the minutes from today's meeting. I would be 
        > very interested in hearing from our Asian and European 
        > members about ideas for making the committee more accessible 
        > to them. Would recorded calls be useful? Would you listen to 
        > them? Are there other things that we could do to help you?
        >         
        >         Thanks for any input
        >         Brian.
        >         
        >