More questions on pipes

From: Shabtay Matalon <shabtay_at_.....>
Date: Thu Jan 12 2006 - 13:13:06 PST
Hi John,

 

Here are some additional questions on pipes requiring some
clarifications. 

 

1. Assume a SystemC test component is generating and sending
transactions to two producers on the C side. Assume that each producer
has its own SystemC execution thread and that the producers don't know
about each other. One of the two (let say B) will be notified first (in
random order) and call dpi_pipe_c_send to send the transaction and than
call dpi_pipe_c_flush. 

 

How pipes are expected to work in this case? Do you expect the consumer
of B to consume the transaction and the HW side simulation to resume
immediately or do you expect that thread B will be suspended and thread
A will be notified to allow producer A to send its transactions and that
simulation on the HW side would start running after both transactions
have been sent?

 

Your answer to this question may also address questions such as:

 

a)       Do pipes based on the proposal support interaction of more than
1 producer/consumer pair during the same synchronization cycle?

b)       Do you expect the pipes implementation to be aware of the
threading package used by the application (SystemC threads in this
case)?

 

2. In pure DPI (Caller/Callee model) the calee must respond for the
caller to resume its execution. With pipes, what happens when a consumer
on the HDL side is calling for example dpi_pipe_hdl_receive, the pipe is
empty and the producer on the corresponding C side has no new
transaction to send? Will this scenario stall the progression of
simulation on the HW side? 

 

Your answer to this question may address questions like:

 

a)       Is an implicit NOP scenario supported by pipes or if any NOP
condition must be conveyed from producer to consumer explicitly?

b)       If explicitly, how would the consumer know when a new
transaction can be consumed after explicit NOP notification was sent?

 

Thanks,

 

Shabtay

 

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Shabtay Matalon

Solution Architect

R&D, CVA

Phone: (408) 428 5081

email: shabtay@cadence.com



 
Received on Thu Jan 12 13:13:14 2006

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