Minutes of the October 25, 2004 SV-BC Meeting (Design Modeling Committee) 21213 Day 51730 11000 Month 00998 00000 Year 44444 aaaaa Matt Maidment - Intel aaaaa Brad Pierce - Synopsys aaa-a Karen Pieper - Synopsys a-aaa Dan Jacobi - Intel aaaa- Dave Rich - Mentor Graphics a-aaa Francoise Martinolle- Cadence aaaaa Mark Hartoog - Synopsys -aa-a Rishiyur Nikhil - Bluespec aaaaa Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design aaaaa Steven Sharp - Cadence ----- Mike MacNamara - Verisity a-a-a Stuart Sutherland - Sutherland HDL a-a-a Don Mills - LCDM Engineering aaaa- Logie Ramachandran - Synopsys aaaa- Surrendra Dudani - Synopsys aa-aa Doug Warmke - Mentor Graphics aa--- Kathy McKinley - Cadence from 1364 ETF -a--- Steve Dovich - Cadence aa--- Greg Jaxson - Synopsys a---- Jonathan Bradford - Micronas Agenda: +Review IEEE patent policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Patent policy was read. +Review Previous Meeting Minutes Matt noted one amendment to correct Steve Dovich's last name. Dave moves to fix Matt's recording of 157 to "And, elements of a packed structure or array can be assigned with multiple continuous assignments, provided that each bit is covered by no more than a single continuous assignment." Brad seconds. Motion Passed. AI: Brad will update it as 157 per corrected wording. Brad moves to accept minutes as amended. Steven seconds. Motion Passed. +Update on Net datatype subgroup Kathy reports that as of the SV-BC meeting, she has received response from approximately 1/2 dozen people and that the weekly call is trending to Thurs 8:30am pacific. Surrendra reported that this time conflicts with sv-ac and that he would like to participate. Kathy encouraged Surrendra and others to reply to her directoy as soon as possible so a weekly call can be set up. Kathy also noted that the sv-bc@eda.org reflector will carry email exhanges of the subgroup. +Email Matt will send out a ballot on Monday after the meeting, covering issues: 12, 20, 29, 31, 34, 38, 39, 109, 119, 120 159, 163, 258, 259 Brad asked that 254 be dealt with in the meeting and not by email. +Discussion Possible closure candidates: 147: This issue is addressed by section 3.10 of the LRM. Brad moves the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Surrendra seconds. Motion passed. 148: This issue is addressed in section 3.11 of the LRM. Brad moves the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Karen seconds. Motion passed. 149: Date types and struct members can have the same name. Brad moves the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Doug seconds Motion passed. 150: The default behavior is [0:size-1] as per the LRM. Brad moves the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Danny seconds. Motion passed. 232: Const variables are different than constant_primary. Francoise moves the status of this issue be changed to resolved (not a bug). Brad seconds. Motion passed. Other: 254: Lots of discussion about implicit versus explicit aggegrate constructors. Stu & Steven advocate the use of '{ to unambiguously indicate a struct constructor and packed'{ to unambiguously indicate a concatentation. Dave later pointed out that the bit-stream operator will serve this purpose. Straw poll agreed that addition of '{ to unambiguously indicate a struct expression is a good thing. Brad will incorporate this into his proposal. Group did not get to: 19: Brad Proposal uploaded, ready for vote? 27: Dave Rich Proposal uploaded, ready for vote? 32: Brad vote in meeting or defer to email? 37: Brad Informal proposal in issue. 218: Brad Proposal uploaded. 220: Steven Proposal uploaded. 223: Brad Proposal uploaded. 226: Brad Proposal uploaded, needs more discussion? Immediate Priority Issues ------------------------- 21 Mark Hartoog 23 Nikhil (10/29) 24 Mark Hartoog 26 Cliff Cummings 32 Brad Pierce (9/27) 36 Matt Maidment (11/8) 51 Francoise Martinolle 74 Nikhil (10/29) ** 94 Brad Pierce (close pending 254) 101 Francoise Martinolle *102 Brad Pierce (9/27) move to close 103 Mark Hartoog 110 Cliff Cummings / Don Mills **112 Brad Pierce (close pending 254) 120 Mark Hartoog (10/15) 145 Matt Maidment (11/8) **146 Brad Pierce (close pending 254) *148 Brad Pierce (9/27) move to close 170 Dave Rich 214 Needs more discussion 216 Steven Sharp 217 Steven Sharp 218 Brad Pierce (10/3) 220 Steven Sharp (9/29) 226 Brad Pierce (9/2) 254 Brad Pierce (10/14) Action Items Completed Pending 09/27/04 Steven Review 221 for possible inclusion in immediate priority issues to be resolved. 10/11/04 Karen File erratum to update SV LRM refs from 1364-2001 to 1364-2005 10/11/04 Dave 76: Fix typo 10/11/04 Dave Related to 157, File new errata for continuous driver (assign) 10/11/04 Brad 39: change wording to non-negative to rows 3 & 4 / 5 & 6 10/11/04 Brad 43: Keep second sentence change for 10.4. strike first change.