SV-BC Errata Committee Meeting Date: Monday, July 31, 2006 Time: 09:00am-11:00am PDT Toll Free Dial In Number: (888)635-9997 International Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (763)315-6815 PARTICIPANT CODE: 53904 31102021210000 Day 10952840736957 00000000000011 Month 77665544332121 00000000000000 Year 66666666666655 aaaaaaa-aaaaaa Matt Maidment - Intel aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Brad Pierce - Synopsys aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Shalom Bresticker - Intel aaaaaa--aaaaaa Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design a---aaaaa-a-aa Surrendra Dudani - Synopsys aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Mark Hartoog - Synopsys aaaaaaaaaaaa-a Francoise Martinolle - Cadence aaaaaaaaaaaaaa Karen Pieper - Synopsys a-aaaaaaaaaaaa Dave Rich - Mentor Graphics aa-aa-aaaa-aaa Steven Sharp - Cadence a-aaaaa-aaaaaa Gordon Vreugdenhil - Mentor Graphics ---a-aaaaaaaaa Doug Warmke - Mentor Graphics -a-aa---aaaaa- Stu Sutherland - Sutherland HDL aaa--a--a-aa-- Logie Ramachandran - Synopsys ---a----a--aa- Don Mills - LCDM Engineering ------------a- Bill Paulsen - Cadence ----------a-a- Rishiyur Nikhil - Bluespec ----------aa-- Chris Spear - Synopsys ----------aaaa Dan Jacobi - Intel aa------------ Heath Chambers - Consultant/Trainer Agenda + Review IEEE patent policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Reviewed. + Review Minutes of Previous Meeting http://www.verilog.org/sv-bc/minutes/sv-bc_06_07_10.txt Karen moves to accept the minutes as posted. Cliff seconds. No opposed. Gord, Shalom & Logie abstain. Motion passes. + E-mail Ballot Results All issues (1030, 1108, 1154, 1283, 1430, 1475) passed. + SVDB 957 ( http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000957) Dave will take this over and combine tables 5-1 and 6-1 into a single table in clause 4. + Nested Modules The answers to Shalom's questions: Nested modules must be defined before instantiated If a nested module is instantiated in the same scope as its definition, the instance name cannot be the same as its definition name. If a nested module is explicitly instantiated, it is not implicitly instantiated. + SVDB 1524 ( http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001524) Brad moves to accept the attached proposal. Cliff seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Motion passes. + Name Resolution Sub-committee Gord agreed to lead. Initial members: Francoise, Steven, Mark, Shalom. Gord to extend invitation to SV-EC. + SVDB 1481 (http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001481) Wording for location/handling of tag is unclear. Steven will add bug note with details for a clearer proposal. + Issue Review Process: Identify subset of issues to focus committee effort Assign owners for the issues Owners bring issues to vote when draft of proposal complete Rebuttal to issues should come in the form of specific changes to proposal Guidelines for issues: - Group would prefer not to address issues that complicate merging of the LRMs or require edits to both specs. Group would prefer to address more isolated errata until next PAR is set. - Try to clarify intent of some issues even if no formal resolution. This would be useful for keeping implementations consistent. - Major Severity will be used to identify issues that if not addressed will lead to visibly different implementations. - Group will use severity to quantify impact of change. Issues will be addressed in order of severity. - Priority will indicate issue's development progress. Increase in priority indicates increased progress to proposal and vote. 'Immediate' priority indicates issue is ready for a vote. - Individuals will indicate ownership of resolution by adding themselves to the 'assigned to' field. Karen will help anyone who cannot update an issue. - Individual members can increase the severity of an issue but the group must agree to decrease severity. - Status Filed: Assigned, Resolved & Closed are key states. Issue Themes Namespaces Issues: 30, 1213, 1214, 1220 Primary Owner: Francoise Participants: Gord, Francoise, Mark, cc: Shalom, cc: Karen I/O Errata/Clarification Issues: 672, 1078, 1386: Steven ; 988: Gord Primary Owner: Steven Participants: Steven, Gord, Mark, Francoise Enumerated Types Issues: 916, 917, 1429 Primary Owner: Matt Configurations Issues: 986 (see bugnote for related items) Primary Owner: TBD (proposed as Cliff but he was not present) Scheduling Issues: 1290, 219, 1336 Primary Owner: TBD (Gord; after first round of issues are addressed) Compiler Directives Issues: 1052, 1053, 1084, 1119, 1202, 1292, 1333, 1338, 1339, 1341 Primary Owner: Shalom Name Resolution Primary Owner: Gord Participants: Francoise, Steven, Mark, Shalom. + Proposed Next Meeting Date: Aug 14 Action Items Complete Pending 01/09/2006 Shalom add example for issue 1254 describing situation for rule 3 03/13/2006 Matt Open up SV-BC Issue requesting an index for P1800 03/27/2006 Cliff post examples demonstrating the need for 0-1 wildcard to justify further action on SVDB 99 04/10/2006 Steven to create proposal for SVDB 1386 04/10/2006 Steven to create proposal for SVDB 1078 04/24/2006 Matt identify any other threads of major issues 05/22/2006 Gord Second issue regarding scoping & forward visibility in $unit. 05/22/2006 Gord Enter mantis item & deliver proposal to address name resolution issues 05/22/2006 Steven & Mark Review Gord's name resolution proposal. 06/19/2006 Dave to draw up some guidelines about thread creation from functions for SV-BC to vote/capture consensus and pass along to other committees. 06/19/2006 Gord raise the issue of support of dynamic data in vcd to SV-EC. 06/19/2006 Francoise check with SV-CC regariding suitability of data read API to address debugging of "dynamic data" in lieu of vcd extensions. 07/10/2006 Matt move Gord's document to 1268 07/10/2006 Steve add bugnote to 1043 about specifics for resolution 07/31/2006 Steve add bug note to 1481 with details for a clearer proposal.