SV-BC Committee Meeting Date: Monday, April 2, 2007 Time: 09:00am-11:00am PDT Toll Free Dial In Number: (888)635-9997 International Access/Caller Paid Dial In Number: (763)315-6815 PARTICIPANT CODE: 53904 010001020211 Day 295588439514 000001111000 Month 433212200998 000000000000 Year 777776666666 aaaa---aaaaa Matt Maidment - Intel a-aaaaaaaaaa Brad Pierce - Synopsys -aaaaaaaaaaa Shalom Bresticker - Intel -aaaaaa-aaaa Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design aaaaaaaaaaa- Surrendra Dudani - Synopsys aaaaaaaaaaaa Mark Hartoog - Synopsys -aaaaa-a-aaa Francoise Martinolle - Cadence aa-aaaaaaaaa Karen Pieper - Synopsys aaaa-aaaaaaa Dave Rich - Mentor Graphics aaaaaaa-aaaa Steven Sharp - Cadence a-a-aaaaaaaa Gordon Vreugdenhil - Mentor Graphics -aa-a--aaaaa Stu Sutherland - Sutherland HDL aaa--------- Alex Gran - Mentor Graphics -aa-a-aaaaa- Don Mills - LCDM Engineering aaaaaaa-aaaa Heath Chambers - Consultant/Trainer ---aa---aa-a Doug Warmke - Mentor Graphics -----------a Rishiyur Nikhil - Bluespec -----a-aaaaa Logie Ramachandran - Synopsys Agenda + Review IEEE patent policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Reviewed. + Review Minutes of Previous Meeting http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-bc/minutes/sv-bc_07_03_19.txt Heath moves to accept minutes as posted. Dave seconds. No opposed. Abstain: Brad (Brad did not attend) + 1800-2008 Draft 2 Review Review Assignments posted here: http://www.eda.org/sv-bc/1800_2008_Review.xls Updates on progress Gord and Shalom posed comments. Dave has started review. Anyone else volunteer for review? Brad will check assignments off-line and inform Matt of his selections. With a couple of comments now posted, the committee discussed their scope and what process should be used to see that they are resolved. Gord's changes on compilation seem reasonable to take up with editor. The editor introduced much of the wording in that section. Dealing directly with the editor seems most appropriate. The comments also address SVDB 227. Group generally agreed that if editorial changes were made that also addressed 227, then that was acceptable. Shalom's issues with terminology around net types, variable type and data types is valid. Group generally supported the notion of the editor updating everything to use consistent terminology. In general, SV-BC encouraged to post comments to the reflector. The originator of the comments is responsible to close the loop with the editor to make sure their issues are addressed appropriately. Matt repeated goal for the next meeting: approval of a motion supporting draft 2. Brad moves to adjourn. Heath seconds. 10:00am PDT: Meeting adjourned. + Issues ready for vote 1749 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001749) 1762 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001762) 1064 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001064) 1101 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001101) 1143 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001143) 1562 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0001562) Action Items Pending 01/09/2006 Shalom add example for issue 1254 describing situation for rule 3 03/27/2006 Cliff post examples demonstrating the need for 0-1 wildcard to justify further action on SVDB 99 Other ideas: elsex, defaultx, ifx, alwaysx, initialx, Question: what about X expression in index of Vector or array expressions (a[i] where i === 'X). Cliff to pursue further action. 04/10/2006 Steven to create proposal for SVDB 1386 04/10/2006 Steven to create proposal for SVDB 1078 05/22/2006 Gord file issue regarding scoping & forward visibility in $unit. 06/19/2006 Gord raise the issue of support of dynamic data in vcd to SV-EC. 06/19/2006 Francoise check with SV-CC regariding suitability of data read API to address debugging of "dynamic data" in lieu of vcd extensions. 07/10/2006 Steve add bugnote to 1043 about specifics for resolution 07/31/2006 Steve add bug note to 1481 with details for a clearer proposal 09/25/2006 Matt add SVDB entry to request capability to packages: import/export & non-exported (local) package declarations. 10/09/2006 Brad: enhance 1554 proposal to prevent circularity of expressions (address use or non-use of hierarchical references). 10/23/2006 Matt send example of use of forward typedef. 12/04/2006 Shalom present compelling example of `begin_define -- `end_define 12/18/2006 Gord open Mantis item about expressibility/flexibility problems of unique case 12/18/2006 Cliff open Mantis item about 'predefault' with compelling examples 01/08/2007 Vendors to describe interpretation of a path when there are multiple drivers involved and share test cases on reflector. 02/05/2007 Matt to send list of issues targeted for March 15 resolution 03/05/2007 ALL look at SV-AC items and send Matt a note if you require more information to address them. Matt will work with SV-AC to get additional information. 03/19/2007 Cliff send e-mail to Karen regarding SVDB account 03/19/2007 Heath send e-mail to Karen regarding SVDB account 03/19/2007 Don send e-mail to Karen regarding draft 2 password