SV-BC Ballot Comment Resolution Meeting Date: Monday, April 13, 2009 Time: 9:00am-11:00am PDT Toll Free Dial In Number in North America: 1-888-813-5316 Caller Paid Dial In Number: 1-650-584-6338 Meeting ID: 7839818 1 Day 3 0 Month 4 0 Year 9 a Matt Maidment - Intel a Brad Pierce - Synopsys a Mark Hartoog - Synopsys a Dave Rich - Mentor Graphics a Gordon Vreugdenhil - Mentor Graphics a Stu Sutherland - Sutherland HDL a Alex Gran - Mentor Graphics a Heath Chambers - Consultant/Trainer a Tom Alsop - Intel a Francoise Martinolle - Cadence a Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design a Shalom Bresticker - Intel a Don Mills - LCDM Engineering a Steven Sharp - Cadence Agenda + Review IEEE patent policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Reviewed. + Voting Rights Discussed impact of resetting voting rights: http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-bc/hm/9326.html Participants please attend the next 3 meetings. + Ballot Comments Thanks to Shalom, SV-BC has a Mantis master item for ballot comments http://www.eda.org/svdb/view.php?id=2685 Per Gord we reviewed ballot BC-related comments starting with issues noted as "Must Be Satisfied." Below are cryptic notes on each item that are intended to help gauge scope of work. 2477 Ready for e-mail vote; Scope uncertain. 2501 Ready for e-mail vote; Should be approved. 2593 Clarification requested for 2 examples; Staying specific will help resolution. Otherwise, this could lead to significant work. 1651 Contentious. Brad will add proposal. 2634 Quick. Has informal proposal. Brad will create formal proposal. 2550 Seems trivial. Dave will create formal proposal. (ID 27, 23, 180) 2676 Effort invested in removing required warnings. This issue could become contentious. Shalom to post formal proposal. 2380 Contentious. Needs pre-discussion or pre-vote or review. Will take time, but valuable. 2681 May be a duplicate? Gord not sure it is illegal to use real as index of an array. Example or bullet below it needs to change. Some discussion required prior to any proposal. 2691 Should not take too long to resolve 2674 Trivial. Gord will draft formal proposal if it's ok to postpone until next week. 1000 Point issue is trivial but addressing the entire proposal will need more time. 2672 Trivial. Needs formal proposal. 2610 Most may have been answered. Needs discussion to review. Medium-to-large effort. Look in LRM for where answers are implied or stated. Do not want to reopen fundamentals. Gord willing to provide answers based on current LRM by next week. Then choose to take no action or set plan based on answers. Similar questions about packages (2663-65), Gord will respond as well. 2665 may need discussion. 2663 and 2664 likely answered by current LRM and need some discussion. 2513 Ready for e-mail vote. 2542 Trivial. Brad will create formal proposal. 2695 Trivial. Brad will create formal proposal. 2663 See 2610 above. 2664 See 2610 above. 2665 See 2610 above. 2632 Move to SV-EC 2633 Move to SV-EC 2677 Consensus around "Yes." Needs proposal. Forward typedef following a type definition should also be made legal. 2683 Trivial but no formal proposal. 1492 Brad volunteers to create proposal. Gord wants to check test cases before voting. 2690 Trivial. 2670 Trivial. Stu to create proposal. 2611 Gord will look to see if wording in LRM or not. Believes this has been addressed. 2668 Trivial. Needs proposal. 2667 Trivial. Needs proposal. 2697 There were reasons why this was not allowed in the LRM. Likely to be denied at this phase. 2669 Out of scope. 2678 Trivial. Likely just a comment with no action. 2673 Out of scope. 2679 Clarifying response with no action or out of scope. 2680 Deny with no action. Not backward compatible. 2682 Trivial. Move to SV-EC 2684 Beyond the scope of current LRM and potenially any future LRM. 2686 No change should be made. Not backward compatible. Out of scope. 2687 No proposal. Out of scope for current LRM. 2688 Out of scope. No proposal. 2689 Out of scope. No proposal. 2692 Needs a response. LRM is clear. 2675 Could be clarified. Medium work. Lesser priority. Stu will write proposal. 2671 Out of scope or deny. 2693 To SV-EC 2694 To SV-EC 2666 Trivial. Needs formal proposal. 2696 To Editor 2580 Out of scope 2568 Dave to provide proposal. Not controversial. 2550 See note about ballot item 180 above. 1791 Dave to provide proposal. Not controversial. Summary: BC believes can meet the current May 14 deadline, but it will be close. + SV-CC Requesting SV-BC Input Per this e-mail: http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-bc/hm/9325.html the SV-CC is requesting input on the following items: Should be reviewed in future BC meeting: http://www.eda.org/svdb/view.php?id=2642 http://www.eda.org/svdb/view.php?id=2643 Group agreed the following should be addressed by EC: http://www.eda.org/svdb/view.php?id=2632 http://www.eda.org/svdb/view.php?id=2633 Action Items 04/13/2009 Brad create proposals for Mantis 1651, 2634, 2542, 2695, 1492 04/13/2009 Dave create proposals for Mantis 2550 , 2568, 1791 04/13/2009 Shalom create proposals for Mantis 2676, 2672, 2683 04/13/2009 Gord create proposals for Mantis 2674 04/13/2009 Stu create proposals for Mantis 2670, 2675 04/13/2009 Gord provide initial answers to Mantis 2610, 2663, 2664, 2665