SV-BC Ballot Comment Resolution Meeting Date: Monday, May 11, 2009 Time: 9:00am-11:00am PDT Toll Free Dial In Number in North America: 1-888-813-5316 Caller Paid Dial In Number: 1-650-584-6338 Meeting ID: 7839818 1021 Day 1473 0000 Month 5544 0000 Year 9999 aaaa Matt Maidment - Intel aaaa Brad Pierce - Synopsys aaaa Mark Hartoog - Synopsys aaaa Dave Rich - Mentor Graphics aaaa Gordon Vreugdenhil - Mentor Graphics aaaa Stu Sutherland - Sutherland HDL aaaa Alex Gran - Mentor Graphics aaaa Heath Chambers - Consultant/Trainer aaaa Tom Alsop - Intel aaaa Francoise Martinolle - Cadence aaaa Cliff Cummings - Sunburst Design aaaa Shalom Bresticker - Intel aaaa Don Mills - LCDM Engineering aaaa Steven Sharp - Cadence a--- Charles Dawson - Cadence Agenda + Review IEEE patent policy http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Reviewed. + Review Previous Meeting Minutes http://www.eda.org/sv-bc/minutes/sv-bc_09_05_04.txt Heath moves to accept minutes as posted. Alex seconds. No opposed. Abstain: Shalom. Motion passes. + 1000 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=1000) $dumpports useful for tracking bus contention. Proposal outlines how to use it for tracking bus contention. Charles recommends doing nothing given the limited time available and taking it up during next standard. Stu proposes opening a new issue to address ballot comment 125 with the following: Change: Strength supply 7 to 5 (large): strong strength To: Strength 7 to 5: strong strength Gord seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Motion passes. AI: Stu create Mantis item for 21.7.4.3.2 AI: Matt update 1000 with note to invite Charles Dawson to resolve issue, and update issue that it is no longer a ballot issue. + Review E-mail Vote ending May 11 Pass: 2501, 2568, 2674, 2681, 2580, 2684, 2686, 2687, 2689, 2697, 1791 Fail: 1651, 2593, 2611, 2671, 2678, 2721, 2669, 2673, 2679, 2688, 2690, 2691, 2720 AI: Matt ensure typos in 1791 are addressed. 2691 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2691) Gord worried about the case that a void function used in a testbench may want to kill itself when a failing condition detected. Need to use the same rule as fork-join_none in 13.4.4. Reuse wording in 13.4.4 in 9.7 to enumerate where/how fine-grain process control can be used. Recommend this be transferred to SV-EC. AI: Dave write up new proposal for 2691 and communicate with SV-EC 2593 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2593) Steve moves to accept proposal portmatch_rev2.pdf. Cliff seconds. For: Brad, Heath, Tom, Francoise, Don, Steven, Cliff Opposed: Mark (Rule is unenforceable by vendors and the permission of sign inconsistency is not good). Shalom (Proposal not clear enough. For example in identifying applicability to implicit and explicit data types, kind, etc.) Stu (agrees with Mark and Shalom) Gord (agrees with Mark and does not believe it can be addressed in the allotted time) Dave (agrees with Gord and Mark) Abstain: Alex (needs more time to fully decide) Motion Passes. 1651 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=1651) Opposition points out that capability is available under a different system task. Brad moves to accept proposal. Stu seconds. For: Brad, Stu, Mark , Heath Opposed: Steven (This is not a legacy issue. Available as $sformatf) Gord (This is not a legacy issue.) Dave (No need for 2 names for same capability) Francoise (agree with others and because it was discussed and declined previously in BC) Don (agrees with Dave) Abstain: Cliff (influenced by size of opposition) Alex (no preference) Tom (no preference) Shalom (no preference) Motion fails. Gord moves that no action is required as $sformatf provides the same functionality and the SV-BC previously discussed and rejected $psprintf and $psprintf is not a legacy SystemVerilog feature. Don seconds. Opposed: Mark (SV-BC should approve the use of $psprintf) Brad (SV-BC should approve the use of $psprintf) Abstain: Cliff (indifferent on the issue) Alex (indifferent on the issue) Heath (indifferent on the issue) Motion passes. 2671 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2671) Stu moves that this feedback was reviewed and that no action will be taken The construct has practical application. Gord seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Motion passes. 2673 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2673) Gord moves to accept original proposal. Mark seconds. No opposed. Abstain: Stu (should be deprecated in the future) Motion passes. 2679 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2679) Gord moves to accept original proposal. Cliff seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Motion passes. 2688 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2688) Cliff moves to accept original proposal. Tom seconds. No opposed. Abstain: Stu (The ballot issue could be addressed by answering question) Motion passes. 2611 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2611) Gord moves to accept updated proposal. Mark seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Motion passes. + 2477 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2477) Steven moves to accept enumeval_v3.pdf Brad seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Motion passes. + Other Issues 2380 was moved to SV-EC 2610 (http://www.eda-stds.org/svdb/view.php?id=2610) Gord sent feedback to reflector. http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-bc/hm/9386.html Stu moves to respond that the question was answered by Gord via reflector post http://www.eda-stds.org/sv-bc/hm/9386.html and no further action is required. Mark seconds. No opposed. No abstain. Motion passes. 11:02AM Steven moves to adjourn. Action Items Complete 05/04/2009 Matt invite Charles to May 11 meeting to discuss Mantis 1000 05/04/2009 Steven will make a proposal for 2477 05/04/2009 Shalom create official proposal for 1492. 04/27/2008 Cliff raise 2380 in SV-EC 05/11/2009 Stu create new Mantis item for 21.7.4.3.2 05/11/2009 Matt update 1000 with note to invite Charles Dawson to resolve issue, and update issue that it is no longer a ballot issue. 05/11/2009 Matt ensure typos in 1791 are addressed. 05/11/2009 Dave write up new proposal for 2691 and communicate with SV-EC