Subject: Re: ISSUE:DirectC:DirectC i/f should support mechanism for calling Verilog  task/function from a DirectC application
From: Swapnajit Mittra (mittra@juno.com)
Date: Wed Oct 23 2002 - 01:13:40 PDT
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002 17:30:56 -0700 "Warmke, Doug"
<doug_warmke@mentorg.com> writes:
Swapnajit, 
Some brief comments on your proposal. 
We can discuss more at the appropriate time in the meeting or in email. 
> 
> o If an external C function calls a Verilog task, no 
> simulation time must elapse during the execution of that task. 
> (This is, because a C function in DirectC is a zero-time event). 
> However, no such restriction shall be in place when a Verilog 
> task is called from a cmodule. 
> 
I think this is overly restrictive.  It will not work out well if 
some implementations want to directly integrate C models 
living in a threaded environment (e.g. TestBuilder, SystemC) 
together with HDL models.  Let's keep an open mind 
about making large scale changes to DirectC. 
   Doug, 
   I understand your concern. But, can not these C models 
   be written as cmodules (or be embedded within cmodules) ? 
   I think (Joao, correct me if I am wrong) a DirectC 
   external C function and a cmodule to some sense 
   are analogous to a Verilog function and task respectively. 
   External C functions are 0-time activities whereas 
   cmodules are not. 
   I would not mind if we change that proposition (that DirectC 
   external C functions should be 0-time activity), but my 
   concerns there are: 
   o Whether that will break any other basic structure of the 
   whole scheme. 
   o Whether we have sufficient time to undertake this type of 
   fundamental changes. Personally I think we should rather be 
   late than producing things that are half cooked, but I know 
   we are working under some tight schedule here.
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