RE: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 09/22/2004

Francoise and I met and have agreed that there is no
conflict between Issues 122 and 80.

I have submitted a rewrite of 122 with some wording
changes that Francoise suggested.

Francoise will write up a specific proposal for Issue
80.

Regards,
Jim Vellenga

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James H. Vellenga 978-262-6381
Engineering Director (FAX) 978-262-6636
Cadence Design Systems, Inc. vellenga@cadence.com
270 Billerica Rd
Chelmsford, MA 01824-4179
"We all work with partial information."
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] Subject: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 09/22/2004
]
]
]
] Minutes of 09/22/04 SV-CC Meeting.
] ATTENDEES
] 000
] 444
] 000
] 999
] 211
] 250
] xxx Ghassan Khoory
] xxx Francoise Martinolle
] xxx Doug Warmke
] xxx Bassam Tabbara
] xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk
] xxx Joao Geada
] xxx Charles Dawson
] xxx Jim Vallega
] xx- Ralph Duncan
] x-- Rob Slater
] x-- Sachchidananda Patel
] x-- Michael Rohleder
] x-- John Stickley
] -x- Jim Garnett
] -x- Steven Dovich
] --x Swapnajit Mitra
] --x Karen Pieper
]
] 1. Reviewed Patent information.
]
] - Charles Dawson read the patent information.
]
]
] 2. Reviewed minutes of the 9/15/04 Meeting.
]
] - Joao moves that we accept the minutes.
] Ralph seconds. No opposed. No abstentions Passed.
]
]
] 3. Liaisons
]
] - Chas reported on the PTF activities. PTF will be working
] on errata for 1364 going forward, as directed by 1800.
] They are also interested in two large changes:
] - deprecating the PLI 1.0 sections
] - converting diagrams to UML
] The second item generated some discussion on whether we
] wanted to do the same for the systemVerilog VPI sections.
] Joao expressed concern about the printability of the
] diagrams generated by Rational Rose. Francoise reported
] that Peter Ashenden had resolved the printing issue for
] VHPI. Francoise took an action to find out what was done
] for VHPI. JimV questioned whether the IEEE would allow
] vendors to ship the UML, or would the vendors need to
] pay royalties. Francoise to research.
]
]
] 4. New business
]
] - Francoise questioned how we would interact with the database,
] and what the values for the different fields meant. After
] a lengthy discussion, Chas took an action to ask Karen to:
]
] - write up a process from initial entry of an issue to final
] resolution, detailing the various states that a issue can
] be in and how to transition from one to another.
]
] In the mean time, we decided that proposals should be added
] as a separate bugnote that begins with a "Proposal:" line.
]
] - Chas noted that due to the agenda being sent out too late, we
] would not be able to vote on any items but could do straw
] polls. The process that we will follow, as adopted at our
] last meeting, is there has been insufficient notification of
] a vote we will take a straw poll. If prior to the next
] meeting someone objects, then the issue will be reopened.
] Otherwise, the straw poll will become an official vote
] at the next meeting. Chas also noted that he will be trying
] to publish the minutes in plenty of time for the next meeting
] and the minutes will include a list of items that have complete
] proposals. This will allow us to vote on them at the next
] meeting.
]
] - Item 162: Wrong outline of task func in VPI Instance diagram
]
] Chas noted that "task func" should also be italicized. JimV
] agreed. Straw Poll: Accepted as amended. (No objections)
]
] - Item 124: Inconsistent VPI names: var(iable) drivers and loads
]
] Discussed. Straw Poll: Accepted as proposed (No objections)
]
] - Item 123: Clarify meaning of "member typespec" in VPI
]
] Discussed. Joao was concerned that this proposal may conflict
] with potential solutions for item #80. Francoise and JimV
] were not sure about that. During the course of discussion, JimV
] noticed several problems with his proposal. JimV took an action
] to fix the problems and submit a new proposal.
]
] - Item 122: Eliminate property vpiTypedefType as redundant
]
] Discussed. Joao was concerned this may conflict with potential
] solutions for item #80. Francoise and JimV took an action to
] work on #122 and #80 together to come up with a cohesive solution
] to both issues.
]
]
] 5. Old Business
]
] - Chas to see if everyone can be set to developer for accessing
] the database.
]
] Chas now has an account setup, but has not had a chance to
] play with it much yet.
]
] - Everyone to send the set of items to which they have already
] made proposals.
]
] Chas received lists from Francoise, JimV, Ralph and Doug.
]
]
] Meeting ended at 1:05pm (EDT)
]
] 6. Action items
]
] - Chas to see if everyone can be set to developer for accessing
] the database.
] - Everyone to send the set of items that they will be working on.
] - Everyone to send the set of items to which they have already
] made proposals.
] - Chas to get the database updated to reflect the 8/11 meeting.
] - Chas to make sure everyone is on the SV-CC email list.
] - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve
] printing from Rational Rose.
] - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties
] shipping the UML for the diagrams.
] - Chas to ask Karen to write up the process for resolving any
] given database item.
] - JimV to resubmit a proposal for Item 123.
] - JimV and Francoise to work on a cohesive solution for Item 122
] and Item 80.
]
] 7. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have
] proposals):
]
] - Item 077: VPI diagram for instances shouldn't refer to
] reg objects
] - Item 205: Clarify size relationship of packed type
] canonical/vendor formats.
] - Item 202: Fix 1 erroneous cross-ref, 1 grammar error.
] - Item 160: Multiple packed dimensions (agree on
] interpretation), fix cross-ref & text.
] - Item 049: Decide on semantics: require import fn return
] value data type, add sentence.
] - Item 048: Fix obsolete text on imported task return type.
] - Item 047: Fix 3 erroneous cross-references.
] - Item 046: Fix 1 typo and 1 grammar error.
] - Item 156: Jeita 31: In Index, issue with blocking and DPI imports
] - Item 198: Add unions to list of supported unpacked
] aggregate types for DPI arguments
] - Item 199: More detail needed for DPI treatment of
] dynamic array arguments
] - Item 200: Clarifications needed in DPI Annex E.6, "Data Types"
] - Item 201: More details needed on DPI string argument handling
] - Item 123: Clarify meaning of "member typespec" in VPI
]
]
] --
] Charles Dawson
] Senior Engineering Manager
] NC-Verilog Team
] Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
] 270 Billerica Road
] Chelmsford, MA 01824
] (978) 262 - 6273
] chas@cadence.com
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Received on Wed Sep 22 14:57:59 2004