RE: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 12/22/2004

I just did a quick review of the new proposal from an editor's point of
view. Everything is very clear as to what changes need to be made. THANKS
DOUG!

Stu
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Stuart Sutherland
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-sv-cc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-cc@eda.org] On
> Behalf Of Warmke, Doug
> Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:50 AM
> To: chas@cadence.com; SV-CC
> Subject: RE: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 12/22/2004
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> The proposal for item 50 has been updated with the results of
> today's meeting. MS Word and Adobe PDF versions are available.
>
> The textual changes can be found on page 2 of the document.
> I took the liberty of slightly rewording the changes
> suggested in the minutes. This was done in order to better
> blend in with the surrounding text. No syntactic or semantic
> changes of any kind were introduced by my rewording. Please
> verify and comment if you have any doubts about the new text.
>
> All instances of the string "DPI-3.1a" were replaced with the
> string "DPI" using MS Word 'Find and Replace' functionality.
>
> http://www.eda.org/svdb/bug_view_page.php?bug_id=0000050
>
> Thanks and regards,
> Doug
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-sv-cc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-cc@eda.org] On Behalf Of
> > Charles Dawson
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 22, 2004 11:00 AM
> > To: SV-CC
> > Subject: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 12/22/2004
> >
> > Minutes of 12/22/2004 SV-CC Meeting.
> >
> > ATTENDEES
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> > x--xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson
> > xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Doug Warmke
> > x-xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Bassam Tabbara --xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Andrzej
> Litwiniuk
> > xxxx--xxxxxxxxxxx Joao Geada --xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Jim Vellenga
> > x-xxxxxxxxxxxxxx- Ralph Duncan
> > --x-x-xxxxxx--x-- Rob Slater
> > x-x-xxxxxxxxx-x-- Sachchidananda Patel
> > x-xxxxxxxxxxxxx-- Michael Rohleder
> > x-xx--xxxxx-xxx-- John Stickley
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x- Jim Garnett
> > xxxxxxxxxxxxx--x- Steven Dovich
> > x---x-xxxx-x-xxxx Ghassan Khoory
> > ----------------x Swapnajit Mitra
> > ----------------x Karen Pieper
> > --------------x-- Angshuman Saha
> > ----------x------ Kevin Cameron
> > --------x-------- Amit Kohli
> > -------x--------- Surrendra Dudani
> > xx-xxx----------- Stu Sutherland
> >
> > 1. Reviewed Patent information.
> >
> > - Charles Dawson read the patent information.
> >
> >
> > 2. Reviewed minutes of the 12/01/04 Meeting.
> >
> > - Minutes showed that Stu attended, but he was not there.
> > Francoise had resent them.
> > - Doug/JimG. Accepted.
> >
> >
> > 3. Liaisons
> >
> > - Francoise commented on Champions meeting. We need to be aware
> > of:
> > - Stu wants source file for any of the larger changes.
> > - Item 50 was sent back to us for re-consideration.
> >
> >
> > 4. New business
> >
> > - Item 050
> > - Stu thinks that the SV-CC committee has not solved
> the problem
> > with
> > the backwards compatibility. We need a mandatory warning.
> > - Straw poll: 6 - 4 to make a change to the proposal.
> > - Stu moved to make the string "DPI" and add a default error
> > message.
> > Add the following to 27.4.4:
> >
> > Use of the string "DPI" shall generate a compile
> time error.
> > The error shall contain the following information:
> >
> > - "DPI" is deprecated and should be replaced
> with "DPI-C".
> > - Use of the "DPI-C" string may require changes
> in the DPI
> > application.
> >
> > See section E.12 on compatible access to packed
> data for more
> > information.
> >
> > Michael seconds. Doug abstains. Ralph, Steve against
> (via proxy
> > prior to the
> > meeting). PASSED. Doug will update the proposal in the
> > database.
> >
> >
> > - Item 067
> > Motion to mark 067 duplicate of 265. Joao/Michael.
> > PASSED. (Unanimous)
> >
> > - Shalom had some editorial issues with Item 303.
> > Move to allow chas to work on resolving editor's questions on
> > 303.
> > Doug/Joao. PASSED. (Unanimous)
> >
> > - Francoise noted that SVDB not up to date for Items 077 and 333.
> > - Two new errata: 337 and 338
> >
> > Stu commented that 337 cannot be automatically generated.
> > Chas will assign.
> >
> > 5. Reviewed of items with proposals.
> >
> > - None.
> >
> > 6. Old Business
> >
> > SV-CC action items:
> > - Chas to add Stu to SV-CC email alias.
> > DONE.
> >
> > - Joao to setup a meeting to discuss Item 050.
> > DONE.
> >
> > - ALL to review proposal for Item 333 for next meeting.
> > DONE.
> >
> > - Chas to update the database for past meetings.
> > Chas has (for the most part) been doing this. It seems
> > that we will always have this task, so Chas will remove
> > it from the action item list.
> >
> > PTF action items:
> > - Francoise to remove "+" from tags in UML diagrams and
> > add vpi prefix where appropriate.
> >
> > Francoise thinks this is no longer relevant.
> >
> > - Francoise to send out HTML for 1364-2001 diagrams, using
> > something other than JPG for importing diagrams into frame.
> >
> > Francoise thinks this is no longer relevant.
> >
> > - Francoise to write proposals for PTF 373, 374, and 396.
> > - Steve to write proposals for PTF 311, and 495.
> > - Sachi to write proposals for PTF 307, 312, and 313.
> > - JimG to write proposals for PTF 517, 533, and 534.
> >
> > Chas thought it would be appropriate to do a reset on these
> > items, since none are actively being worked on. We can also
> > track this kind of thing in the SVDB now.
> >
> > Meeting ended at 1:25PM EST.
> >
> > 7. Action items
> >
> > SV-CC action items:
> > - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve
> > printing from Rational Rose.
> > - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties
> > shipping the UML for the diagrams.
> > - Sachi to drive finding a better solution for 052.
> > - JimV to enter a new SV-CC item for adding tables for return
> > values of
> > the properties.
> > - Doug to update proposal for Item 050 as decided on 12/22/2004.
> >
> > PTF action items:
> > - Steve to compare BNF with the access available
> > for attributes to see if they match
> > - Stu to write proposal for PTF 368.
> > - Stu to enter new PTF item for save/restart/reset issue.
> > - Chas to write proposal for PTF 296.
> > - Francoise to lookup wording for PTF 524 in VHPI.
> > - Francoise will open a new PTF issue to look for
> situations like
> > 25.6.15,
> > where multiple methods are used access the same object
> enclosure
> > - Chas to reword proposal for PTF 525.
> > - Draft a straw man proposal using a clean slate with no concern
> > for
> > existing PLI/VPI on the best way to represent all Verilog and
> > SystemVerilog kinds and types. This straw man will
> then be used
> > as a
> > basis for discussing backward compatibility with the existing
> > reg, net,
> > variables, functions, and parameter diagrams. It may
> be decided
> > that
> > full backward compatibility is not possible, or is not
> the best
> > approach
> > moving forward.
> > - Sachi will file a PTF item for the clarification of
> what can be
> > done
> > at ROsync time and putting values in future times.
> > - Francoise to file a PTF item that asks to specify the
> order that
> > iteration
> > occur in, when the order is important.
> > - Steve to add ETF item for Annex C to remove the Informative
> > label, but
> > still allow the contents to be option
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> > 8. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have
> > proposals):
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> > --
> > Charles Dawson
> > Senior Engineering Manager
> > NC-Verilog Team
> > Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
> > 270 Billerica Road
> > Chelmsford, MA 01824
> > (978) 262 - 6273
> > chas@cadence.com
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Received on Thu Dec 23 10:14:34 2004