SV-EC Committee Meeting Monday July 21 2008 11:00am - 1:00pm PDT [ http://www.eda.org/sv-ec/Minutes/SV-EC_Meeting_Junly_21_2008_Minutes.txt ] With the new calculations for voting rights below (rounded)... 3/4 rule = 0.75 * 45 = 33.75 Meeting number: ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 000000000111111111122222222223333333333444444 123456789012345678901234567890123456789012345 Meeting Days: ------------------------------------------------------------------------ (121202020102020101311202020101212102001211202) Day (481593604882505956041593606715926072437542371) (000011111100000000000000000011111100000000000) Month (889900112211223344456677889900011211233345677) (000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000) Year (666666666677777777777777777777777788888888888) ------ Attendees -------------------------------------------------------- (-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-AAAA-A--AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-A) Arturo Salz 39 (--AAA-AAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAA--A-A-AAAAAAAAA-A-AA-) Cliff Cummings 35 (AAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA) Dave Rich 44 (AA-A-AAA-AAAAAAA---AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-A-A-) Francoise Martinolle 37 (-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAA-AA) Mehdi Mohtashemi 41 (AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--AA) Neil Korpusik 42 (AAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-AAAA-A) Ray Ryan 42 (AAAAAAAAAAAA-AAA---AAA-AAAAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAA) Gordon Vreugdenhil 39 (AAAAAA--AAAAA-A--AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA--A) Steven Sharp 37 (--AAAA-A-------------------------------------) Phil Moorby 05 - Non-voting (---AA-AAA-AAAA-AA-A--------------------------) Doug Warmke 12 - Non-voting (AAAAAAA---AA-A-AAAAAAA---AAAAAAAAAA--AA-AAAA-) Stu Sutherland 33 (-AAAA--AAAA-A-AAAAA-AAAA-AAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAA---) Heath Chambers 34 (-AAAAAA-A----AAAAAAAAA--AAAAAAA-AAAAAAA-AAA-A) Don Mills 34 (--AA--A---A-AAA--A-AAAA-A-A--A--A-AA--AA-AA--) Jonathan Bromley 22 - Non-voting (--A------------------------------------------) Logie Ramachandran 01 - Non-voting (----AAA--------------------------------------) Melvin Cardoza 03 - Non-voting (-----A-AAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA-A) Mark Hartoog 37 (-------A-------------A-----------------------) Satia (from Intel) 02 - Non-voting (--------AAA----------------------------------) Rob Slater 03 - Non-voting (-------------A-------------------------------) Alex Gran - Mentor 01 - Non-voting (---------------A-AAA-AAAAA--A-AA-AA--------A-) Mike Mintz 15 - Non-voting (------------------AAAAAAAAAAAA-A-------------) Geoffrey Coram 13 - Non-voting (-------------------AAAAAAAAAA-AAAAAAAAAAA-AAA) David Scott - Mentor 24 - (2 of last 3) (------------------------A--------------------) Benjamin Chen - Cisco 01 - Non-voting (---------------------------AAAAAAA-AA-AA-----) Mike Burns - Freescale 11 - Non-voting (---------------------------------A-----------) Harry King - Cisco 01 - Non-voting (------------------------------------A--------) Karen Pieper 01 - non-voting 13 people (other than chair) currently have voting rights for the next meeting ** Minutes taken by Neil Korpusik and Mehdi Mohtashemi ////////////////// July 21, 2008 ///////////////////////// Agenda: 1. Review IEEE patent policy ref: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Move: Gord - assume patent policy was read Second: Mark Abstain: None Opposed: None Approved 2. Review meeting minutes/notes: July 7 2008 meeting minutes http://www.eda.org/sv-ec/Minutes/SV-EC_Meeting_July_7_2008_Minutes.txt Move: Gord - approve the meeting minutes Second: Dave Abstain: Ray (was not there) Opposed: None Approved 3. Updates from p1800WG / Champions meeting / SV-SC ------------------------------------------------------ a) updates from p1800wg meeting June 26 2008 End of July deadline for completing all work. July 24 Champions meeting Aug 7 Champions meeting Aug 14 Working Group meeting No schedule changes have been made, Draft 7 - will be the ballot draft - September 11 - only editorial changes allowed to it - also only any changes between 6 and 7 4. Review of Draft 6 -------------------------------------------------------- ---- Total 8 for SV-EC to review ------------- A) 6 from Draft5 in Draft 6. June 20 2008 * 958 dynamic array size method (Shalom) * 1594 conditional operator for class handles incorrect (Francoise) * 1702 queue syntax issues (Jonathan) AI/Mehdi - to close, if not done already (DONE) * 1707 streaming operator should specify which direction slices are taken from (DaveR-Jonathan) * 1871 clarification needed for illegal/ignore transition bins (David_Scott) AI/David Scott - to review this one * 2164 Use "base class" instead of "parent class" in 8.12 [Gord] Gord - has already closed it. B) 2 new in Draft6 1789 Clarification of string behavior (DaveR) Dave - doesn't have the original source for it. - we approved some re-wording at the last meeting. AI/Dave - update it 2183 Only simple identifiers allowed in solve-before constraint (Ray) Ray - it is ok, he will close it. NOT yet in Draft6 2279 Followup questions related to Mantis item 1858 - bnf for randomize (Neil) 5. Immediate issues to review ----------------------------------------------------------- Mantis 2424 [2 cross-references and bug note] Ray - changed the status to Editor Mantis 1447 [raised with sv-bc, and email discussions on array assignment] Gord - it did not come up in the bc meeting today - 7.6 deals with unpacked arrays and q dif than packed. - 2nd para of 7.6 Same number of dimensions and has equivalent types. Not consistent with other statement about assignment compatible under the following conditions. - fixed sized unpacked arrays - there is a contradiction Steven - packed is not a problem - unpacked is very different AI/Mehdi - we won't do anything here. We will leave it for the sv-bc to deal with Mantis 1655 [ coverage section, cross-product] Mantis 2428 (related to 1655) [ coverage section, cross-product] Move: Arturo Second: David Scott Abstain: None Opposed: None Approved AI/Mehdi - move to the resolved state Mantis 520 and Mantis 1789 Mantis 520 Gord - ok to just leave it in the Editor state Mantis 1789 [Have new bug notes, need reviews at the meeting] Dave - added a new document for it. 6. Next meetings in 2008 ---------------------- Monday August 18 2008 11:00-1:00pm [next draft is due on September 11 2008] Monday September 15 2008 11:00-1:00pm Monday September 29 2008 11:00-1:00pm ??