RE: Structure of new P1666 standard

From: Stuart Swan <stuart@cadence.com>
Date: Wed Feb 17 2010 - 20:30:50 PST

All-

As mentioned earlier we (Cadence) would like to see the process control
extensions that we have implemented for SystemC be included in the IEEE update.
We have posted two documents describing these extensions in detail onto the repository
at the following link:

http://www.eda.org/systemc/documents/

These documents have already been contributed to OSCI and reviewed by the OSCI LWG.

With regards to John's question about TLM-1 below, we would like option B, namely
full inclusion into the IEEE standard.

Thanks
Stuart

From: owner-systemc-p1666-technical@eda.org [mailto:owner-systemc-p1666-technical@eda.org] On Behalf Of john.aynsley@doulos.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 6:21 AM
To: systemc-p1666-technical@eda.org
Subject: Structure of new P1666 standard

Hello Everybody,

You will find below what the contents of the revised P1666 standard would look like if we put the existing SystemC and TLM-2.0 LRMs back-to-back.

There will need to be some changes to the TLM-2.0 sections to meet IEEE guidelines and for consistency with the old 1666 std. The only major issue I see is that the TLM-1 / analysis port content will not be adequate as they stand. In my opinion, it either needs to be expanded and refined, or removed entirely. Perhaps this is where we should start the technical discussions, since it is one of the more substantive issues.

So, first question: Do we want to

A. Remove all mention of TLM-1 and analysis ports?

B. Include a full, detailed description of all aspects of TLM-1 and analysis ports as they was originally released in the TLM 1.0 standard?

C. Something in between? In that case, I would propose we include only the TLM-1 core interfaces, including analysis ports, together with some definition of their minimal semantics (i.e. what blocking and non-blocking mean, whether you are allowed to modify the method arguments, transaction object lifetimes, and so forth). This would require some technical work to pin down what the "minimal semantics" actually are.

Opinions, anyone?

OVERVIEW

REFERENCES

Terminology and conventions used in this standard

SystemC (from existing 1666-2005)
  Elaboration and simulation semantics
  Core language class definitions
  Predefined channel class definitions
  Data types
  Utility class definitions

TLM-2.0 (from existing OSCI LRM)
  INTRODUCTION
  TLM-2.0 CORE INTERFACES
  GLOBAL QUANTUM
  COMBINED INTERFACES AND SOCKETS
  GENERIC PAYLOAD
  BASE PROTOCOL AND PHASES
  UTILITIES
  TLM-1 AND ANALYSIS PORTS
    TLM-1 core interfaces
    TLM-1 fifo interfaces
    tlm_fifo
    Analysis interface and analysis ports

Annex A (informative) Introduction to SystemC
Annex B (informative) Glossary
Annex C (informative) Deprecated features
Annex D (informative) Changes between the different SystemC versions
Annex E (informative) Other stuff ....

INDEX

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