RE: Structure of new P1666 standard

From: Jeremiassen, Tor <tor@ti.com>
Date: Fri Feb 19 2010 - 07:21:56 PST

It is the position of Texas Instruments that TLM-1 should NOT be included in the P1666 standard. While the library may serve some purpose for some entities, it does not have the same impact and value as TLM-2 and adds a level of confusion. There is nothing preventing anyone from using TLM-1 without its inclusion into the IEEE standard. So option A.

Texas Instruments supports the inclusion of the process control primitives proposed by Cadence and considered by the LWG.

Best regards,

Tor Jeremiassen

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From: owner-systemc-p1666-technical@eda.org [mailto:owner-systemc-p1666-technical@eda.org] On Behalf Of john.aynsley@doulos.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 17, 2010 8:21 AM
To: systemc-p1666-technical@eda.org
Subject: Structure of new P1666 standard
Hello Everybody,
You will find below what the contents of the revised P1666 standard would look like if we put the existing SystemC and TLM-2.0 LRMs back-to-back.
There will need to be some changes to the TLM-2.0 sections to meet IEEE guidelines and for consistency with the old 1666 std. The only major issue I see is that the TLM-1 / analysis port content will not be adequate as they stand. In my opinion, it either needs to be expanded and refined, or removed entirely. Perhaps this is where we should start the technical discussions, since it is one of the more substantive issues.
So, first question: Do we want to
A. Remove all mention of TLM-1 and analysis ports?
B. Include a full, detailed description of all aspects of TLM-1 and analysis ports as they was originally released in the TLM 1.0 standard?
C. Something in between?  In that case, I would propose we include only the TLM-1 core interfaces, including analysis ports, together with some definition of their minimal semantics (i.e. what blocking and non-blocking mean, whether you are allowed to modify the method arguments, transaction object lifetimes, and so forth). This would require some technical work to pin down what the "minimal semantics" actually are.
Opinions, anyone?
OVERVIEW
REFERENCES
Terminology and conventions used in this standard
SystemC  (from existing 1666-2005)
  Elaboration and simulation semantics
  Core language class definitions
  Predefined channel class definitions
  Data types
  Utility class definitions
TLM-2.0  (from existing OSCI LRM)
  INTRODUCTION
  TLM-2.0 CORE INTERFACES
  GLOBAL QUANTUM
  COMBINED INTERFACES AND SOCKETS
  GENERIC PAYLOAD
  BASE PROTOCOL AND PHASES
  UTILITIES
  TLM-1 AND ANALYSIS PORTS
    TLM-1 core interfaces
    TLM-1 fifo interfaces
    tlm_fifo
    Analysis interface and analysis ports
Annex A (informative) Introduction to SystemC
Annex B (informative) Glossary
Annex C (informative) Deprecated features
Annex D (informative) Changes between the different SystemC versions
Annex E (informative) Other stuff ....
INDEX
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