Geoffrey, Then my recollection has been fuzzier still, as what you say does ring a bell. :-) Another reason for putting them back in again might also be that the role of a model card could easily be played by a paramset. If a paramset provides the required parameter values for such a device (such as level, type, etc.) would it be necessary to require a model card to use these devices? This also allows the use of paramsets for SPICE built-in device models such as BSIM4 for which there is no (official) Verilog-A code. Anyway, I wasn't expecting this version of Annex E to be the last one. Cheers, Marq To Marq Kole <marq.kole@nxp.com> cc "Geoffrey.Coram" verilog-ams <geoffrey.coram@anal <verilog-ams@eda-stds.org> og.com> Subject Re: current discussion documents 15-08-2007 16:11 Classification My recollection of the discussion is somewhat fuzzy, but: I thought we wanted diode, mosfet, etc. left *in* the table, because the table lists the port/terminal names and order along with the "instance" parameters. Eg, we want to standardize the connections that would be made in the example: vertNPN Q1 (vcc, b1, e, vcc); Table E.1 used to say that the ports were c, b, e, s (in that order) and that one could specify a value for the parameter area. -Geoffrey Marq Kole wrote: > All, > > I've also updated Annex E of the LRM and Geoffrey Coram has been so kind > to put it on the Verilog-AMS website. You can find it at: > http://www.eda-stds.org/verilog-ams/htmlpages/public-docs/merged_spice.pdf > > The changes are largely related to section E.3: > - Table E.1 has been changed to describe the behavior of the SPICE > models in terms of their parameters. > - Also in Table E.1 the device models for diode, mosfet, etc. have been > removed because they require a model card. > - And also in Table E.1 the dc, mag, and phase parameters of the SPICE > sources have been removed. > - Table E.2 that explained the model parameters for the sources has been > removed, as that information is now in the behavioral description of > Table E.1. > - Finally, for section E.3.3 on name scoping I have taken over > recommendations from Martin O'Leary for handling name clashes between > SPICE and Verilog-AMS. > > If the issues with chapter 11 persist, we could review Annex E instead. > > Cheers, > Marq > -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.
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