Re: Minutes of the Verilog-AMS committee call: 15 May 2008

True. In section 9.14, I think the cross references should be to clause 
4.3.1 and Table 4-14.

Stu,
Is it possible to make this correction as part of the list that was sent 
yesterday.

Regards,
Sri

Jonathan David wrote:
> I was just look at the math functions and discovered the the cross references in 9.14 
> to table 4-2 and 4-17 are quite strange.. 
> I think these should point to 4-14 and 4-15.. 
> Stu, sorry for the late discovery, but better late than never!
> 
>  Jonathan David
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> 
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Sri Chandra <sri.chandra@freescale.com>
> To: Verilog-AMS LRM Committee <verilog-ams@eda.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 11:15:57 AM
> Subject: Minutes of the Verilog-AMS committee call: 15 May 2008
> 
> Stu,
> 
> I have minuted the changes discussed in today's meeting. Hopefully i 
> have got the points across clearly on the different points (and 
> specifically on chapter 9 changes). Please let me know if you need any 
> additional clarification on these.
> 
> Date: 15 May 2008
> 
> Geoffrey Coram, Analog Devices
> Marek Mierzwinski, Tiburon
> Martin O'Leary, Cadence
> Stu Sutherland, Sutherland HDL
> Patrick O'Halloran, Tiburon
> Dave Cronauer, Synospsys
> Ken Bakalar, Mentor Graphics
> Jonathan David, Qualcomm
> Marq Kole, NXP
> Sri Chandra, Freescale
> 
> Chapter 1: Verilog-AMS introduction
> * [clause 1.1, pg 15]: remove Verilog-D reference and the text within ()
> * [clause 1.1, pg 15]: Add "as described in Annex C" in the Verilog-A 
> reference --> ("also referred to as Verilog-A as described in Annex C")
> 
> Chapter 3: Data types
> * [Syntax 3-2, Pg 41]: In value_range syntax definition, the wrong type 
> of ` has been used (should not be a back-tick). Same update needs to be 
> done in Annex A also.
> * [clause 3.4.6, pg 44]: typo on "transistortype"
> 
> Chapter 4: Expressions
> * [Table 4-14, pg 71]: Use ">=" for sqrt()
> * [Table 4-15, pg 72]: Use "<=" for acos()
> * [clause 4.5.6, pg 65]: remove ";" in the general form for the ddx() 
> expression
> * [clause 4.5.6, pg 65]: move inout declaration before electrical 
> declaration in both the diode examples
> * [cluase 4.5.6, pg 65, 66]: font correction (bold) for limexp and vt in 
> both the diode examples
> * [clause 4.5.11.5, pg 88]: fix font on laplace_zp example for 
> "white_noise". Should be bold.
> * [clause 4.6.4, pg 94]: fix the BNF for noise_table (same fix to be 
> done in Annex A.8.2)
>    | noise_table (constant_concatenation | string [, string ])
> 
> Chapter 6: Hierarchical structures
> * [clause 6.4, pg 140]: The .model card statement should refer to nmos 
> instead of nmos3
> * [clause 6.6.2, pg 154]: ";" missing in module pipeline_adc on the top 
> of the page
> 
> Chapter 7: Mixed signal
> * [clause 7.3.2, pg 165]: add "inout anet" to the converter example.
> * [clause 7.3.2, pg 165]: add "output dnet" to the converter example.
> * [clause 7.3.2, pg 165]: The last statement in the analog block should 
> say V(anet) <+ dnet; instead of V(anet) <+ 1'bz;
> 
> Chapter 9: System tasks and functions
> * [syntax 9-8, pg 224]: remove ";"
> * [clause 9.13.1, pg 224]: Remove the first half of the "if" clause in 
> the last sentence in paragraph beginning with "The random_seed argument 
> may take one of several forms"...The last sentence will just read "The 
> function returns a new 32-bit random number each time it is called."
> * [clause 9.13.1, pg 224]: In the paragraph starting with "$arandom 
> supports the seed argument..."
>    The second sentence should say the following: "The analog_random_seed 
> argument can also be a parameter or a constant, in which case the system 
> function does not update the parameter value". (added parameter before 
> value to make it more explicit).
> * [clause 9.13.1, pg 224]: Please add the following new sentence after 
> the second sentence in the same paragraph:
>    "However an internal seed is created which is assigned the initial 
> value of the parameter or constant and the internal seed gets updated 
> every time the call to $arandom is made."
> * [clause 9.13.1, pg 224]: Change cross-reference to 6.3 instead of 6.4
> * [Syntax 9-9, pg 225]: remove ";" for the distribution functions.
> * [Syntax 9-9, pg 225]: fix font for ")" in rdist_t syntax
> * [clause 9.13.2, pg 225]: In bullet point #3 add the above two fixes 
> done for $arandom with parameter seed (adding parameter and inserting 
> the new sentence):
>    "... upon successive calls to the system function. If the seed 
> argument is parameter or constant, then the system function does not 
> update the parameter value. However an internal seed is created which is 
> assigned the initial value of the parameter or constant and the internal 
> seed gets updated every time the call to $arandom is made. This makes 
> the system function useable for parameter initialization."
> 
> Chapter 10: Compiler directives
> * [clause 10.6, pg 254]: ";" missing in "input sin;" in the example at 
> the very bottom of the page.
> * [clause 10.6, pg 255]: Add the following note before the example for 
> VAMS-2.3
>    Note: The identifier logic is not a keyword in Verilog-AMS v2.3, and 
> is a keyword in the P1800-2005 System Verilog standard.
> * [clause 10.6, pg 255]: "electrical" and "logic" should not be bold in 
> the example given to describe VAMS-2.3
> 
> Annex A: Formal syntax definition
> * [A.2.5, pg 343]: use correct ` (tick) for the value_range_type.
> * [A.8.2, pg 359]: fix syntax definition for noise_table
>    | noise_table (constant_concatenation | string [, string ])
> 
> Annex D: Standard definitions
> * [Annex D.1, pg 372]: domain discrete needs ';'
> 
> Annex E: Spice Compatability
> * [Annex E.1.2, pg 378]: the blank bullet (bullet # 4) to be deleted.
> * [Annex E.1.2, pg 378]: Bullet #3 and #5 to be merged into one.
> 
> Annex G: Open issues
> * Annex G to be deleted from the LRM.
> 
> Annex H: Change history
> * [Table H.4, pg 398]: Items 14 & 16 are duplicates. Stu to verify.
> * [Table H.4, pg 398]: In item 17, cross/timer/above have an additional 
> enable argument.
> * [Table H.4, pg 398]: Items 33 and 34 can be merged into single item
> * [Table H.4, pg 399]: Add new item saying "Annex G of LRM v2.2 has been 
> deleted. Annex C of LRM v2.2 has been split and the section describing 
> the changes from previous LRM versions has been documented in this 
> Annexure (Annex H)."
> * [clause H.1.1, pg 399]: Clause H.1.1 should become H.2
> 
> Next Committee Meeting:
> * Planned for Monday, May 19th 7am Pacific time
> * Stu plans to release the next version of the document before the end 
> of this week. Stu will send across two versions, one with change bars 
> (to reflect the changes from today's meeting) and one without change 
> bars - the official draft4 version.
> * Once all the changes are ratified by the committee, the clean LRM v2.3 
> draft4 version will be submitted to the Accellera board from approval
> 
> Regards,
> Sri

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