Verilog-AMS Committee Meeting Minutes - 12th May 2011

Meeting - Thursday 12th May 2011

Attendees:
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Sri Chandra (Freescale)
Marq Kole (NXP)
Ian Wilson (BDA)
Shalom Bresticker (Intel)
Scott Little (Freescale)
Martin O'Leary (Cadence)
Dave Miller (Freescale)

* Accellera representatives to SV-DC
Sri put forward three names to Accellera board as candidates to represent
Accellera and the Verilog-AMS group on the SV-DC committee. Accellera has
chosen Ian Wilson as the representative. Congratulations Ian.

* Review of 02 - Lexical conventions
We discussed how we are going about the merging of the documents. At the
moment, David is taking the existing Verilog-AMS frame source and updating it
to reflect the SV document.

Concerns have been raised that this is going to prove painful down the road as
we are going to end up with a standard that is neither Verilog-AMS or
SystemVerilog as a base document.

Shalom feels, and everyone agrees, we would be far better off if we used the
SystemVerilog document as a base and merged our changes into that.

This was our original plan, however the issue with this is that we still have
not been given access to the SystemVerilog source.

Martin also raised concerns about how we distinguish the differences (or
changes) to the document. VHDL 1076.1 used the approach of having change bars
in the document to reflect the differences. However, this was done in 2007. New
IEEE style guidelines does not allow change bars in production (non-draft)
documents. It is important to ensure that we follow these guidelines else we
won't get the work accepted.

The alternative is to enclose the analog changes in sub-chapters so they can be
easily referenced.

Either way, our goal has always been to produce a draft standard to donate to
IEEE. Since it is a draft, we have a bit more freedom regarding how to
represent our changes.

We also need to keep in mind that whatever we produce, a very large percentage
of users of this language is only interested in the analog subset. We need to
ensure that the final document acts as a single point of reference for these users.

Another point Shalom raised was regarding copyright. We need to be careful
about copying content from 1800 into our document.
Sri mentioned that Accellera has provisions in place to allow us to develop
this document. Of course using the SV 1800 document as a base alleviates this
somewhat.

Moving forward, instead of updating a document. For each section in SV
1800-2009, we will note down the changes needed to it to support A/MS. Once we
have the document issues sorted out, we can then look at merging them in.

Actions from the meeting:
1. Sri will follow up with Karen/Accellera as to what the delay is in obtaining
the SV source.
2. Shalom will forward to the group the IEEE style guidelines.
3. David will go through sections 01 and 02 that we have already done and note
down the changes needed to support these within the SV 1800 document.

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