X-Account-Key: account1 X-Mozilla-Keys: Received: from az33smr02.freescale.net (10.64.34.200) by 039-SN1MMR1-001.039d.mgd.msft.net (10.84.1.13) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 14.1.270.2; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:47:21 -0600 Received: from az33egw01.freescale.net (az33egw01.am.freescale.net [192.88.158.102]) by az33smr02.freescale.net (8.13.1/8.13.0) with ESMTP id p1IHlKOf000712; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:47:21 -0600 (CST) Received: from mail67-va3-R.bigfish.com (mail-va3.bigfish.com [216.32.180.112]) by az33egw01.freescale.net (8.14.3/8.14.3) with ESMTP id p1IHlJX2007701 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=FAIL); Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:47:20 -0700 (MST) Received: from mail67-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail67-va3-R.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id AB256B30151; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:47:19 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 0 X-BigFish: vpaccept X-Forefront-Antispam-Report: KIP:(null);UIP:(null);IPVD:NLI;H:smtp.stanford.edu;RD:smtp4.Stanford.EDU;EFVD:NLI Received: from mail67-va3 (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail67-va3 (MessageSwitch) id 1298051239420241_21505; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from VA3EHSMHS006.bigfish.com (unknown [10.7.14.252]) by mail67-va3.bigfish.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C6FD10B004E; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:47:19 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp.stanford.edu (171.67.219.84) by VA3EHSMHS006.bigfish.com (10.7.99.16) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 14.1.225.8; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 17:47:13 +0000 Received: from smtp.stanford.edu (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with SMTP id B977F1A6194; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:47:12 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail.eda.org (eda.Stanford.EDU [171.64.101.205]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by smtp.stanford.edu (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54F771A57B9; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:47:08 -0800 (PST) Received: from eda.org (server.eda.org [127.0.0.1]) by mail.eda.org (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id p1IHjIMS031171 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:45:18 -0800 Received: (from majordom@localhost) by eda.org (8.13.8/8.13.8/Submit) id p1IHXneB028812; Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:33:49 -0800 X-Spam-TCS-SCL: 0:0 Message-ID: <4D5EAC90.7030905@freescale.com> Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 11:29:52 -0600 From: Dave Miller User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686 (x86_64); en-US; rv:1.9.2.7) Gecko/20100713 Thunderbird/3.1.1 To: Verilog-AMS LRM Committee Subject: Verilog-AMS Committee Meeting Minutes - 17th Feb 2011 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-EDA-MailScanner: Found to be clean, Found to be clean X-Spam-Status: No, No Sender: Precedence: bulk X-EDA-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-EDA-MailScanner-ID: p1IHjIMS031171 X-EDA-MailScanner-From: owner-verilog-ams@eda.org Return-Path: owner-verilog-ams@eda.org X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthSource: 039-SN1MMR1-001.039d.mgd.msft.net X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthAs: Internal X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AuthMechanism: 10 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-AVStamp-Mailbox: MSFTFF;1;0;0 0 0 X-MS-Exchange-Organization-SCL: 0 MIME-Version: 1.0 Meeting - Thursday 17th February 2011 Attendees: Sri Chandra (Freescale) Geoffrey Coram (Analog Devices) Scott Little (Freescale) David Miller (Freescale) * Update from recent SV committee meeting Sri recently participated in the System Verilog committee meeting and discussed what we plan to do with respect to the System Verilog-AMS merge. Main discussion was with respect to the document. Discussed both option: 1. get all chapters and incorportate analog entensions to produce one fully contained System-Verilog-AMS document. 2. Just obtain the style sheets and generate an extensions document. This would be similar to what we have now with the Verilog-AMS 2.3.1 and 1364-2005. The SV board was a lot more comfortable with 2. It also means we don't have to do a complete review of our document every time the parent P1800 document changes especially since our time lines may not sync up. The next item that was discussed was the BNF, do we want to have an appendix that is just the AMS changes to the P1800 or do we want to support a single merged BNF? Still undecided, but feel the most useful option is a single merged BNF. Yes, it does mean we need to keep it up to date with changes in the parent P1800 BNF, but changes in the BNF are not quite as drastic as the potential document changes between revisions. Lynn Horobin is working with Accellera and P1800 to get the necessary permissions in place to access the documents. We made need some sort of restrictive access, or access list put in place, this is still being looked into. There was some discussion on how VHDL 1076 works, with the 1076.1 dot standard for the AMS extensions being a similar work effort to what we are undertaking. It is referred to as a superset of 1076 and does mention that it may not be in sync with the parent 1076 standard. * Other items Achim sent some requests for enhancements to the Verilog-AMS standard. They have been lodged as Mantis item: 3392. Dave asked a question related to the request by Jonathan regarding detecting of floating node conditions during run time. Geoffrey explained that they are not ideal floating nodes, but situations where for example, a MOS device is turned off. The node may exhibit a very tiny conductance and be very loosely controlled. It is these high impedance nodes that people are interested in detecting. If the tools could detect these conditions, it would be very useful. The next call will be Thursday 3rd March. An agenda will be distributed two days prior to the call. Dialin Details: San Francisco, 11.30a Austin, 1.30p Boston, 2.30p Amsterdam, 8.30p Tel Aviv, 9.30p New Delhi, 1a (next day) Adelaide, 6a Call-In Details: USA Toll Free : 8008671147 Australia Toll Free: 1800009128 India Toll Free : 0008006501482 Netherlands : 08002658223 Passcode: 0970751# -- ============================================== -- It's a beautiful day -- Don't let it get away -- -- David Miller -- Design Technology (Austin) -- Freescale Semiconductor -- Ph : 512 996-7377 Fax: x7755 ============================================== -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. .