[$ieee-1850] IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting - 28 Sep 2004 - Minutes

IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting
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Location: Teleconference
Date: 28 Sep 2004

Presiding Officer: Harry Foster, Chair
Secretary: Erich Marschner

Members:
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  Accellera DR: Harry Foster
  Cadence DR: Erich Marschner; DRA: TBD
  IBM DR: Yaron Wolfsthal; DRA: TBD
  Mentor Graphics DR: Steve Bailey; DRA: Tej Singh
  Synopsys DR: Surrendra Dudani; DRA: Oz Levia

Attendance Record:
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  Key:
      v : member with voting priveleges during last meeting
      + : present (leftmost = most recent meeting)
      _ : absent
  Members:
v (+) Accellera (DR: Harry Foster)
v (+) Cadence (DR: Erich Marschner)
v (+) IBM (DR: Yaron Wolfsthal)
v (+) Mentor Graphics (DR: Steve Bailey)
v (+) Synopsys (DR: Surrendra Dudani)
  Observers:
     (+) Dana Fisman (Weizmann Institute)
     (+) Avigail Orni (IBM)
     (+) Jin Hou (Synopsys)
     (+) Joseph Lu (NVidia)
     (+) Johan Mårtenson (Safelogic)
     (+) Johan Alfredson (Safelogic)
     (+) Peter Flake (Synopsys)
     (+) J. Bhasker (eSilicon)
     (+) Sitvanit Ruah (IBM)
     (+) Tom Thatcher (Sun)
     (+) Ben Cohen (consultant)
     (+) Bassam Tabbara (Novas)
     (+) Mohamed-Lyes Benalycheri (ST)

Agenda:
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  Welcome
  Roll Call
  Introduction
  Patent policy presentation
  PAR presentation and review
  P&Ps presentation and review
  Election of Officers
  Schedule
  Issues

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The meeting was called to order at 8:05am PDT.

Welcome
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The Chair welcomed the group and gave an overview of the P1850 effort, and referred attendees to the P1850 web site, at http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850, for links to the documents to be discussed in the meeting.

Roll Call
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The Secretary took attendance and identified corporate SA members and DRs/DRAs. The roster of participants in the working group (which is accessible from the web page) was discussed.

AI: Erich: poll members in the roster list to obtain missing information
AI: Harry: revise posted roster to hide email addresses

Introduction
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The Chair presented an overview of the agenda for today's meeting. The agenda was approved (motioned: Erich; seconded: Yaron; no objections).

Patent Policy
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The Secretary presented the IEEE Patent Policy slides. The meaning of 'essential' was discussed and clarified. The requirement for Letters of Assurance was presented and discussed. It was noted that some changes have been proposed in the wording of the Letter of Assurance to address the unique situation of Accellera-donated standards (in particular, SystemVerilog and PSL), and that we will likely follow whatever is done for SystemVerilog (P1800).

PAR Presentation and Review
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The Co-Chair presented the PAR section by section, explained each section, and noted that the PAR was approved by NESCOM. A few minor issues and questions were noted:

 - the PAR references OSCI SystemC, but an IEEE PAR for SystemC was just approved
      (because IEEE SystemC did not exist when the PAR was written; the intent is to track IEEE SystemC)
 - a question about the impact of the copyright transfer to the IEEE

P&Ps Presentation and Review
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The Chair presented the IEEE 1850 PSL working group Policies and Procedures (P&Ps) , noted that these are derived from other working groups' P&Ps, and explained each section in detail. Several changes were proposed, seconded, and approved by vote:

Section 6:
 - says "At the first organizational meeting, the WG shall elect its operating officers in accordance with 6.1,..."
    - but 6.1 outlines a process that takes at least 28 days
 - change "shall elect" to "shall begin the process to elect" (motioned: Erich; seconded: Harry; no objections)

Section 7:
 - says "The Secretary records attendance for members who attend at least 50% of a meeting’s duration."
    - this is difficult or impossible to do for teleconference-based meetings
 - change"attend at least 50% of a meeting's duration" to
      "are present for roll call at the beginning or end of the meeting"
      (motioned: Erich; seconded: Surrendra; no objections)

Section 9:
 - discussion about whether the chair should be able to vote except to break a tie
 - in the last paragraph, delete the following:
      "The chair can also vote to create a tie, making the motion fail.
       The Chair can also choose not to break a tie. In such a case, the
       motion would fail."
      (motioned: Erich; seconded: Steve; no objections)
 - delete 'usually' from subsequent sentence, so it reads
      "If the tie is in an election, there is a runoff vote between the two tied candidates."
      (motioned: Erich; seconded: Steve; no objections)

Section 10:
 - advance notice requirement is extreme given that we plan to meet regularly every week
 - change 2nd paragraph, first sentence, to read
    "Except for regularly scheduled meetings, a meeting shall be announced
     30 days in advance to all members and observers, and an agenda shall be
     distributed at least 14 days in advance of a meeting."
    (motioned: Erich; seconded: Bassam; no objections)
 - add the following paragraph:
    "Announcement for the 1st in a sequence of regularly scheduled meetings
     shall be made at least 7 days in advance. This announcement will include
     schedule information for the sequence of regularly scheduled meetings.
     The agenda for a regularly scheduled meeting shall be distributed at least
     3 days prior to the meeting."
    (motioned: Steve, seconded: Erich, no objections)

Election of Officers
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In accordance with the Policies and Procedures, the Chair asked for a volunteer to act as Returning Officer to administer the process of electing officers. Avigail Orni agreed to serve in that capacity.

Schedule
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Deferred to next meeting.

Issues
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Deferred to next meeting.

Next Meeting
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The next meeting will be held on Tuesday October 5 from 8am-10am PDT. Teleconference information will be provided separately, along with the agenda for the next meeting.

Adjournment
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The meeting was adjourned at 10:00am PDT.

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Erich Marschner, Cadence Design Systems
Senior Architect, Advanced Verification
Phone: +1 410 750 6995 Email: erichm@cadence.com
Cell: +1 410 294 2599 Email: erichm@comcast.net
Received on Wed Sep 29 16:18:56 2004