[$ieee-1850] IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting - 9 November - Minutes

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IEEE 1850 PSL Working Group Meeting
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Location: Teleconference
Date: 9 Nov 2004
Presiding Officer:  Harry Foster, Chair
Secretary:  Erich Marschner
Website: http://www.eda.org/ieee-1850
Members:
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  Accellera          DR: Harry Foster
  Cadence            DR: Erich Marschner;       DRA: Steve Ward
  IBM                DR: Yaron Wolfsthal;       DRA: Avigail Orni
  Mentor Graphics    DR: Steve Bailey;          DRA: Tej Singh
  Synopsys           DR: Surrendra Dudani;      DRA: Oz Levia
Attendance Record:
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  Key:
      v : member (= voting priveleges) during last meeting
      + : present (leftmost = most recent meeting)
      _ : absent
  Members:
v    (++_++)  Accellera (DR: Harry Foster)
v    (+++++)  Cadence (DR: Erich Marschner)
v    (+++++)  IBM (DR: Yaron Wolfsthal) 
v    (+++++)  Mentor Graphics (DR: Steve Bailey) (rep. by DRA: Tej Singh)
v    (+++++)  Synopsys (DR: Surrendra Dudani)
  Observers:
     (_++++)  Dana Fisman (Weizmann Institute)
     (+++++)  Avigail Orni (IBM)
     (+++++)  Joseph Lu (NVidia)
     (+++++)  Johan Mårtenson (Safelogic)
     (+_+++)  Johan Alfredson (Safelogic)
     (+__++)  Sitvanit Ruah (IBM)
     (+++++)  Tom Thatcher (Sun)
     (_++++)  Bassam Tabbara (Novas)
     (+++++)  Mohamed-Lyes Benalycherif (ST)
     (++++_)  Tej Singh (Mentor)
     (_+++_)  Andrew Seawright (Mentor)
     (+++__)  Jari Kalinainen (Nokia)
     (+_+__)  Klaus Winkelmann (Infineon)
     (+_+__)  Adriana Maggiore (AltraVerifica)
     (+_+__)  Steve Ward (Cadence)
     (_+___)  Makarand Joshi (Cadence)
     (_+___)  Cindy Eisner (IBM)
     (+____)  Andrea Fedeli
   Inactive:
     (__+__)  Limor Fix (Intel)
     (___++)  Jin Hou (Synopsys)
     (___++)  Peter Flake (Synopsys)
     (___++)  Ben Cohen (consultant)
     (___+_)  Richard Wallace (Northrop Grumman)
     (____+)  J. Bhasker (eSilicon)
Agenda:
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  Call to order
    - Attendance Roll Call
    - Patent Policy and Letters of Assurance
    - Approve Agenda
    - Approve Minutes of Last Meeting
  Old Business
    - Membership Issue
         - Status Quo
         - Discussion of possible changes
    - Officer Elections
         - Results 
    - Schedule
         - Update and Current Status
         - Short-term goals
    - IEEE Support Services
         - Proposal summary
         - Discussion of funding approach
  Subcommittee Reports
    - Issues Subcommittee
    - Extensions Subcommittee
    - LRM Subcommittee
  New Business
  Next Meeting
  Adjourn
    - Attendance Roll Call
Call to order:
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The meeting was called to order at 8:04am PST.  
Attendance was recorded via roll call.
The IEEE patent policy slides were presented.  The working group was advised that the IEEE's Patent Policy is consistent with the ANSI patent policy; that early disclosure of patents which may be essential for the use of standards under development is encouraged; that such disclosures may not be exhaustive; and that the IEEE, the working group, and the working group chair cannot ensure the accuracy of completeness of any disclosure.  An opportunity was provided for the working group members to disclose patents that might be essential for use of PSL.  No patents were disclosed.
The agenda was approved. (Motion: Erich; second: Yaron: no objections)
The minutes of the last meeting were approved.  (Motion: Erich; second: Yaron; no objections)
Old Business:
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1. Membership Issue
Erich described the current status:
The current Policies and Procedures require IEEE-SA corporate membership for "members".  This is not required in the CAG "model operating procedures", but is encouraged by CAG, because participating in the ballot requires either corporate IEEE-SA membership (or one-time fee), and therefore including this requirement for WG membership helps ensure that participants have ballot voting priveleges.
IEEE staff have made it clear that WG membership and voting priveleges go hand-in-hand.  Loss of voting priveleges as a result of missing 2 of the past three meetings also means loss of membership in the working group - i.e., change to 'observer' status for future meeting attendance, until membership is restored by attending 2 successive meetings.
The existing P&P definitions are still a bit ambiguous and could reflect this intent better.  
AI: Erich to propose revised text to clarify P&Ps.
Given this definition, Johan M.'s question about accelerating membership applies.  Specifically, when a company that has attended the last 2 meetings (as an 'observer') becomes an IEEE-SA corporate member, does it immediately become a WG member, or must it attend 2 more meetings before becoming a WG member?  Discussions with IEEE staff indicate that we have the flexibility to change our P&Ps to accelerate membership in this case.  
AI: Johan M. to work with Erich to propose such an amendment.
2. Officer Elections
Avigail (as Returning Officer) reported the election results:
The candidates (the current officers) each received 10 approval votes.  The current officers are therefore approved as the new officers.
AI: Avigail to send an email to the reflector as an official announcement of the results.
3. Schedule
Deferred until next meeting.
4. IEEE Support Services
The officers received a proposal from Edward Rashba just yesterday, but have not had time to review it yet, so this discussion was deferred until the next meeting.
Subcommittee Reports:
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1. Issues Subcommittee (Erich)
Some new issues have been identified since the last meeting.  The issues list still remains to be updated, and issues beyond #35 still need to be prioritized.  This will occur by email as soon as Erich has time for it.
2. Extensions Subcommittee (Erich)
The intial set of issues (about 44) have been grouped into sets of related issues.  The Extensions SC will discuss the groups with highest priority today, immediately following the WG meeting.
3. LRM Subcommittee (Harry)
A draft of the IEEE 1850 LRM has been created.  It will be posted on the web page within the next week, in PDF format, and password-protected.  The password will be distributed separately.  This and future IEEE 1850 LRM drafts must not be distributed outside the IEEE 1850 working group.
New Business:
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None.
Next Meeting:
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The next meeting of the working group will be held on Tuesday November 16 from 8am-10am PDT.  Agenda and teleconference information will be sent out shortly.
Adjournment
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Attendance was checked again, by roll call.
The meeting was adjourned at 8:25am PST.
(A meeting of the Extensions SC followed the WG meeting, from 8:25am until 10:00am PST.)
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