Minutes of 12/18 meeting


Subject: Minutes of 12/18 meeting
From: Ian Wilson (imw@antrim.com)
Date: Sun Jan 07 2001 - 18:05:56 PST


[12/18/00 Phone meeting, run by Kevin Cameron].

Present: Kevin Cameron, Joe Daniels, Jon Sanders, Dan FitzPatrick,
Peter Liebman, Ian Wilson, Sri Chandra (Motorola Australia).

LRM Access
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KC repeated a request for the group to have electronic access to
the LRM. IMW had sent an email to Vassilios, agreed to resend with
Cc to Dennis Brophy.

LRM Issues
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JS is going through his known issues list; will make available.
He also has the list of questions from GH (from the Cleanup round)
and will make these available, as these give useful info on the
1.3->2.0 changes.

IMW agreed to make a list of issues available.

[Noted that KC's list of issues has already been published.]

Verilog 1364-2001
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IMW agreed to request a stable copy from Mac McMannon.
JS has a link to a 'new features' writeup.

Discipline Resolution
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[There was enogh discussion on this to indicate that significant
effort will be required to reach agreement in a standard].

The following general principle was agreed upon for discussions
of 'large' features such as this:

  Anyone who does not agree with the current proposal is welcome
  to propose an alternate approach. This will require that they
  state the new approach in a 'proof of concept' paper (1-2 pages)
  such that it can be clearly understood by end users as well as
  developers. This follows the method agreed by the group of
  requiring that a criticism be accompanied by a solution,
  workaround, etc.

Timelines
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General agreement was reached on the following timelines:

  - an 'Accelera 2.1' version will be published around July 2001.
    This document will be the starting point for IEEE submission.
    The PLI section of the document will probably remain at the
    2.0 level and be updated later

  - issues related to general Verilog-2001 compliance will be
    handled around June 2001

  - other topics (including proof of concept papers) must be
    submitted no later than 1 March 2001

  - IEEE standardization is expected to take 12-18 months (JD),
    which means the earliest it can be expected is August 2002

Tutorial/Example Material
-------------------------
JS noted that there was a panel session at HDLcon and will see
whether he can submit material based on his presentation.

Future Meetings
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Telecon meetings will be moved to 1:30pm PST so that Antipodean
members don't have to lose 4 hours' sleep.

Next meeting (telecon) will be 1/9, 1:30PST. IMW will provide
call-in numbers.

Following meeting (face-to-face) will be 1/23. Host requested
in the San Jose area (Cadence, Mentor or Synopsys) please.

--ian wilson



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