RE: array parameters overrides

From: Marq Kole <marq.kole_at_.....>
Date: Thu Apr 19 2007 - 01:04:24 PDT

All,

I propose the following text to replace the second bullet in the list in section 3.2.4 (Parameter Arrays):

Cheers,

Marq


Marq Kole
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"Bresticker, Shalom" <shalom.bresticker@intel.com>

18-04-2007 10:42

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Marq,
 
See Mantis 1209.
 
I agree it needs to be an error.
 
Note that in IEEE 1800 syntax, the list of array values needs to be enclosed in ‘{}, with an apostrophe before the curly bracket.
 
Also, 1800 8.13 says,
 
An assignment-like context is as follows:
...
— For a parameter with an explicit type declaration:
— A parameter value assignment in a module, interface, program, or class
— A parameter value override in the instantiation of a module, interface, or program
 
and 5.7 says,
Assigning to a fixed-size unpacked array requires that the source and the target both be arrays with the same
number of unpacked dimensions, the length of each dimension be the same, and each element be of an
equivalent type.
 
Regards,
Shalom
 



From: owner-verilog-ams@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-verilog-ams@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Marq Kole
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Tuesday, April 17, 2007 5:45 PM
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RE: array parameters overrides

 

Shalom,


Thanks; from what I read in the IEEE 1800-2005 standard (although module instance parameters are not mentioned in section 19.11, but task and function parameters are) array parameters have to match in size, according to section 12.4. That seems to indicate that in Verilog-AMS LRM 2.3 we should make this an error as well.


Cheers,

Marq



Marq Kole
Domain Leader Robust Design

Research
NXP Semiconductors







"Bresticker, Shalom" <shalom.bresticker@intel.com>

17-04-2007 15:26


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1364-2005 does not have array parameters, only 1800-2005.

 
Shalom

 

 



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owner-verilog-ams@server.eda.org [mailto:owner-verilog-ams@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Marq Kole
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verilog-ams
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array parameters overrides

 


All,


In the Verilog-AMS 2.2 LRM there is nothing specified about overriding array parameters; also in IEEE 1364-2005 nothing is mentioned on this item.


Considerthe following Verilog-A code:


module map(a, b);

inout a, b;

electrical a, b;

parameter real ap[0:3] = { 0.0, 0.707, 1.0, 1.414 };


genvar i;


analog

  for (i = 0; i <= 3; i = i + 1)

    $write("ap[%d] = %g\n", i, ap[i]);


endmodule // map

module test_map(a, b);

inout a, b;

electrical a, b;


// overriding array length == 1

map #(.ap({ 1.2 })) X1 (a, b);

// overriding array length == 5

map #(.ap({ 3.1415, -1.01, 2.2u, 1e-9, 10.0 })) X2 (a, b);


endmodule // test_map


What would happen when the compiler/interpreter encounters the instantiations X1 and X2? I could not find any reference in the standard documents. To prevent ambiguity in the various simulators I suggest that the elaboration is defined, for instance in section 7.2 in the Verilog-AMS LRM and/or in section 12.2.2 in IEEE 1364-2005.


Personally, I would expect an error to occur for both instantiations, essentially signalling a mismatch in length between the overriding and overridden arrays.


Cheers,

Marq



Marq Kole
Domain Leader Robust Design

Research
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