All, The upcoming 2.3 release for the Verilog-AMS language will be mainly focused on the integration with the digital Verilog standard IEEE 1364-2005. Next to that there are quite a number of analog-specific items that got resolved in this text, next to a general clean-up of the document and the examples. However, there are also a number of mixed signal items that need to be resolved, for instance, there are some issues on supply-sensitivity in connect modules for which there is no standardized solution currently available. The Mantis database for Verilog-AMS issues has got a number of quite hairy mixed-signal items marked for possible inclusion in the standard, in general trying to improve the mixed-signal modelling and simulation possibilities in the language. Given the current state of affairs none of the abovementioned mixed-signal items will make it into the 2.3 LRM. On one hand, the above are valid concerns and could lead to improved usability of Verilog-AMS in particular in the mixed-signal domain; on the other hand, we do not want to lose the momentum in the Verilog-AMS LRM 2.3 efforts. My proposal would be to move ahead with Verilog-AMS 2.3 as fast as possible, at this time making only the simplest of amendments - preferrably only those that have come out of the review of draft 2 and items such as typo's in the LRM 2.2 text. Anything to do with the bigger mixed-signal items as signaled in Sri's message of February 21 should be postponed. Yet, in parallel with the final stages of the Verilog-AMS 2.3 LRM I would also propose to start a mixed-signal subcommittee that would focuses solely on existing and new items in the mixed-signal part of Verilog-AMS. This would encompass supply-sensitive connect modules, discipline incompatibility specification, analog and digital function convergence, analog tasks, extending wreal to a regular port type with discipline and bidirectional communication, etc. The main committee could then consider the merger with SystemVerilog, but if the subcommittee finishes its work earlier an intermediate release of the standard may be produced so the mixed-signal developments in the tools can move ahead and not wait on the additional SystemVerilog integration. Personally, I would aim for a 1 year timeline, similar to the work in the compact modeling subcommittee. Of course, whereever SystemVerilog already offers a solution to any particular mixed-signal items that will be preferred over any new solutions. I have already sent a message along the same lines as the text above to a few of the regular attendees to find out how this proposal would be received. Actually, all of the responders were quite positive about this. This has prompted me to ask Sri to add this item to the agenda for tomorrow's (tonight's) Verilog-AMS standardization conference call. Best regards, Marq -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Thu Mar 13 09:40:42 2008
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