Shalom, At this current time, I was thinking more along the lines of Option 1 that you have mentioned based on P1800-2009. It might be a faster way for the community to have a SV-AMS version, may be I am being optimistic. Also, I felt since this would impact SV in the most minimal fashion might be the easiest approach. However, I have not thought into detail on option 3. Just reading through your email, depending on the number of changes in the 2013 standard, time frame it will take us to have the merged/extended SV-AMS (depending on resources working on this and other aspects) - we can still look into the option of releasing the extended version based on the 2013 version of SystemVerilog, so that the integrated language has the up to date digital standard. Our initial work can be based on the P1800-2009 standard that is available today. Regards, Sri Bresticker, Shalom wrote: > It is necessary to remember that in parallel, P1800 will begin working on a new revision of 1800. > > Is the idea to: > > 1. make SV-AMS a set of extensions of SV, similar to how 1800-2005 was a set of extensions of 1364-2005? That would leave 1800 intact and independent, while making SV-AMS dependent on SV. > > 2. make SV-AMS an entirely separate standard that would be SV+AMS? > > 3. make SV+AMS a single standard, 1800-2013? > > 4. undecided yet > > Thanks, > Shalom > > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Sri Chandra [mailto:sri.chandra@freescale.com] >> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 7:06 AM >> To: Bresticker, Shalom >> Cc: Verilog-AMS LRM Committee >> Subject: Re: Verilog-AMS committee meeting - 18 Nov 2009 >> >> >> Dear Shalom, >> >> I am also bit unclear at this stage on the specifics and >> hence I would >> like to discuss with the committee and hear some of the >> thoughts in this >> regard - what aspects the committee should be focusing on as part of >> this merge process. Any particular ground work in terms of syntax >> differences, semantics, integrated scheduling algorithm >> between the SV >> and AMS engines etc. >> >> We might have to do something bit different compared to what >> we did with >> 1364-2005 integration. With that integration we pretty much >> merged the >> language at the syntax level first and worked out the >> semantics of each >> of the sections (we merged the entire digital language at the grammar >> level into AMS). >> >> There are couple of my personal thoughts in this, and I am sure there >> are much better opinions out there. Given that the analog extensions >> will be much smaller compared to the P1800 standard, I >> believe that it >> might be easier to extend the current SV/P1800 standard to >> include the >> AMS extensions. In essence, enhance the current P1800-2009 >> standard to >> support analog/mixed signal syntax and semantics and in the >> process see >> whether any of the current SV language constructs are >> applicable to AMS >> and what the common aspects of the two languages are, so that we dont >> define independent semantics for these. But at the more fundamental >> level, there have been some concerns raised in terms of >> integrating the >> scheduling semantics between AMS and SV. I am not yet very >> clear on this >> issue, and why it would be difficult to integrating the scheduling >> engine but we need to understand this more clearly. I am sure >> there are >> many more things to this integration apart from what I have mentioned >> here, but hopefully this will enable other discussions on how >> to address >> this P1800 merge. >> >> We are currently requesting permissions with Accellera and the P1800 >> committee for the original documentation source (framemaker >> documents?) >> >> Regards, >> Sri >> >> >> Bresticker, Shalom wrote: >>> Sri, >>> >>> I am confused about the SV-AMS integration. How is it going >> to work? Who is going to do it? How will it be coordinated >> with P1800? Etc. >>> Thanks, >>> Shalom >>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: owner-verilog-ams@server.eda.org >>>> [mailto:owner-verilog-ams@server.eda.org] On Behalf Of Sri Chandra >>>> Sent: Wednesday, November 18, 2009 6:24 AM >>>> To: Verilog-AMS LRM Committee >>>> Subject: Verilog-AMS committee meeting - 18 Nov 2009 >>>> >>>> >>>> Date: 18 Nov 2009 >>>> >>>> Call-In Details: >>>> USA Toll Free : 8008671147 >>>> Australia Toll Free: 1800009128 >>>> India Toll Free : 0008006501482 >>>> Netherlands : 08002658223 >>>> Passcode: 0970751 >>>> >>>> California: 2.00p (Wednesday) >>>> Texas: 4.00p >>>> New York: 5.00p >>>> Netherlands: 11.00p >>>> Israel: Midnight >>>> Delhi: 3.30a (Thursday) >>>> South Australia: 8.30a >>>> >>>> Its been more than 4 weeks since the AMS committee met, >> and apologize >>>> for not organizing this meeting earlier. I think it will be >>>> good to have >>>> couple of meetings between now and end of the year to start >>>> discussions >>>> on some of the AMS enhancements tickets and merger activities. >>>> >>>> Agenda: >>>> * Planning for mantis items listed as "AMS Enhancements" >>>> * Discussions on how to move forward on SV-AMS integration work >>>> (priorities, initial work break down, discuss the sort of >>>> merger/integration that we plan to do with SV) >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> Sri >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> This message has been scanned for viruses and >>>> dangerous content by MailScanner, and is >>>> believed to be clean. >>>> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Intel Israel (74) Limited >>> >>> This e-mail and any attachments may contain confidential >> material for >>> the sole use of the intended recipient(s). Any review or >> distribution >>> by others is strictly prohibited. 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