Re: AMS/SV integration and adoption of Verilog-A

From: Geoffrey.Coram <Geoffrey.Coram@analog.com>
Date: Wed Apr 07 2004 - 10:22:29 PDT

Kevin -
I think Verilog-A has to start out replacing Spice for a few
communities where its flexibility is crucial; once it gains
acceptance there, it will snowball. But its acceptance in
the compact modeling community does not depend strongly on
integration; the communities where integration is important
don't need its flexibility and are adequately served by
Spice, so what's the benefit for them? (Power MOS models
still use MOS level 3!)

-Geoffrey

Kevin Cameron wrote:
> >
> That's the problem in a nutshell, it's great that Veriilog-A is replacing Spice for some communities, but Accellera's original aim (OVI at the time) was that there should be one language for all communities.
> >
> When I did hardware design I worked on mixed signal circuits like Switch-Mode Power Supplies, those kind of designs mix high power single transistors, inductors, capacitors etc. and digital control logic. That was board level stuff so I could bread-board it easily and didn't have to simulate it. These days most of the bits are integrated into single chips and can't be bread-boarded so simulation is the only way to design and verify. It is crucial that [System]Verilog-AMS is a single language that can describe high level logic down to single transistors (and works equally well for all the designers) if mixed signal SoC is to be commercially viable for more than a few (wealthy) design houses.
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