RE: Minutes of the Verilog-AMS meeting: 10th July 2008

From: Bresticker, Shalom <shalom.bresticker_at_.....>
Date: Sun Jul 13 2008 - 00:22:51 PDT
Hi,

Regarding the cross-references to IEEE Std 1364-2005 claues for system
tasks and functions and compiler directives, the internal references
appear immediately following the texts in question:

The $identifier system task or function can be defined in five places
- A standard set of $identifier system tasks and functions, as defined
in Clause 8, Clause 10, Clause 17 and Clause 18 of IEEE std 1364-2005
Verilog HDL.
- Additional $identifier system tasks and functions defined using the
PLI, as described in Clause 12 and Clause 20 of IEEE std 1364-2005
Verilog HDL.
- Additional $identifier system tasks and functions defined in Clause 4
and Clause 9 of this standard.
- Additional $identifier system tasks and functions defined using the
VPI as described in Clause 11 and Clause 12 of this standard.
- Additional $identifier system tasks and functions defined by software
implementations. 

and

The `identifier compiler directive construct can be defined in three
places
- A standard set of `identifier compiler directives defined in Clause 11
and Clause 19 of IEEE std 1364-2005 Verilog HDL.
- Additional `identifier compiler directives defined in Clause 10 of
this standard.
- Additional `identifier compiler directives defined by software
implementations.

Thus the references to Clauses 8, 10, 11, and 12 are clearly wrong and
it is ridiculous to leave them. The correct references do appear and
therefore these should be simply deleted. Even if you can claim that
maybe they were intended to refer to something else and you want to find
out what that was, it makes no sense to leave them in their current
form. Delete them now, and if you find in the future an additional
reference that should have appeared, add it then. As they are now, they
do not help anyone, and just confuse.
 

> * [Clause 2.8.3, pg 32]: The references to Clause 8, 10, and 12 of 
> 1364-2005 may be incorrect. This was discussed in the 
> committee and its 
> unclear at this point whether some of the clauses are internal 
> references to Verilog-AMS document itself. Also chapter numbers have 
> changed in p1364 and LRM2.3 and need to do detailed search for any 
> reference to system task/function on these before removing 
> these clauses.
> ==> *Note:* This is not planned for this version and will be 
> taken for 
> next revision and also deemed as not very critical.
> 
> * [Clause 2.8.4, pg 32]: The reference to Clause 11 of 1364 might be 
> incorrect. This was discussed in the committee and its 
> unclear at this 
> point whether some of the clauses are internal references to 
> Verilog-AMS 
> document itself. Also chapter numbers have changed in p1364 
> and LRM2.3 
> and need to do detailed search for any reference to system 
> task/function 
> on these before removing these clauses.
> ==> *Note:* This is not planned for this version and will be 
> taken for 
> next revision and also deemed as not very critical.

Regards,
Shalom
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