Re: [sv-ac] FW: Requirements for debugging capabilities


Subject: Re: [sv-ac] FW: Requirements for debugging capabilities
From: Alain Raynaud (alain@tensilica.com)
Date: Fri Sep 27 2002 - 09:49:41 PDT


[I cc sv-cc as this is of interest to both groups; be careful who you reply to - Alain]

> Does anyone else share this concern ?
>

Yes, definitely!

> Can we add a usage requirement that will prove debugging facilities ?
>

I'm not sure this can be addressed in the requirements. For instance, in the case of Verilog, waveforms
editors and RTL source code viewers quickly became available, but the standard didn't specify those.

The closest requirement I could think of would be to have some dump format for assertions. In theory, if
we do our job correctly on the PLI side, you could get callbacks each time a regular expression, starts,
finishes, and so on... so that an external debugging tool could display the relevant information to the
user.

Alain Raynaud.
Tensilica, Inc.

Shalom.Bresticker@motorola.com wrote:

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Miller Hillel-R53776
> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:56 AM
> To: 'sv-ac@eda.org'
> Subject: Requirements for debugging capabilities
>
> Hi,
>
> I am very suprised that there is no requirements for sufficient debugging capabilites.
>
> Lately I am finding it very difficult to find/define tools that facilitate for debugging capabilities
> that involve regular expressions. Regular expression for temporal languages has been around
> for some time now. I would expect that these capabilities would exist by now.
>
> I would hate to find out that a standard language would be developed which inherently could not have
> good debugging tools. Afterall the users always spend most of their time debugging.
>
> Does anyone else share this concern ?
> Can we add a usage requirement that will prove debugging facilities ?
>
> Hillel



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