Minutes of 04/11/2005 SV-CC Meeting. ATTENDEES 000000000000000000000000000 555555555544444444444444444 000000000011111111111110000 444222111122222111100009999 100200211021100211022102211 185392692526581470360369250 xxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson xx-xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle xxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Doug Warmke xx-xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx- Ralph Duncan xxxxxx-xxxx-x-xxxxxxxxx-x-- Sachchidananda Patel xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx-- Michael Rohleder xxxxx-xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-x- Jim Garnett xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx--x- Steven Dovich xxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Jim Vellenga xxx------------------------ Rohit Rana xx----xx--x-xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx Bassam Tabbara xx---x--x-xx-xxx----------- Stu Sutherland xx------------------------- Tapati Basu x-------------------------- Ashish Naik -----xxxx---xxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Andrzej Litwiniuk ----------x-xx--xxxxx-xxx-- John Stickley ------xxxxx---x-xxxx-x-xxxx Ghassan Khoory -------x--xxxx--xxxxxxxxxxx Joao Geada ------------x-x-xxxxxx--x-- Rob Slater --------------------------x Swapnajit Mitra --------------------------x Karen Pieper ------------------------x-- Angshuman Saha --------------------x------ Kevin Cameron ------------------x-------- Amit Kohli -----------------x--------- Surrendra Dudani 1. Reviewed Patent information. - Charles Dawson reviewed the patent information. 2. Reviewed minutes of the 04/08/2005 Meeting. - Item 407 we made 'two' not 'to' friendly amendments - Item 447 has a word 'version'. This should be removed. - Stu/JimV. ACCEPTED as amended. 3. Liaisons - Nothing else reported. 4. New business - Trivial issues 413, 414, 415, 540, 542 Motion to pass them en masse. Doug/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 465 Long discussion on what frames mean now. Francoise will add notes to 32.19, 32.22, and 32.28 to clarify the new definition of frames. - Item 464 Francoise' bugnote seems to clarify it well enough. Francoise moves that the bugnote clarification be added as the response to this item. Steve seconds. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 612 and 613 612 is a duplicate of 385. 613 is a duplicate of 407. Doug Moves as to declare them as duplicates and resolved. JimV seconds. PASSED. - Item 605 Friendly amendment by Stu to remove the change to vpiClockingSkew and to ask that this change be incorporated into Item 606. Bassam/Stu. PASSED as amended (unanimous) - Proposal added for Item 345 (encryption) Please review. - Next meeting will likely be between 4/14 and 4/18. Please send your availability to Chas. 5. Reviewed of items with proposals. - Item 600 Move to declare 598, 599, 600, 601 as duplicates of 473. JimV/Doug. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 473 Francoise made a friendly amendment to add semicolons in the example as appropriate. Stu had some difficulty with the first sentence of the new note. Made a friendly amendment to correct it. Michael has a problem with the 4th sentence. Another friendly amendment to correct. JimV uploaded a new version of the proposal. Stu/Rohit. PASSED as amended (unanimous) - Item 474 Sachi/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 533 Chas did not like the added note in 32.14. Francoise asked what should this property return for things not in a class? Francoise suggested we change the note to cover this situation. Francoise, took action item go and confirm with EC visibility can apply to parameters and named events. Bassam also noted that the default is public. JimV to rework the proposal. - Item 610 Note should really be for 32.14. Need to preserve the historical relation between full name and handle by name. Francoise thinks the note is okay. Change 'class instance' to 'class var'. Add another note that full name to static members goes through definition. Name is used as in the HDL (chas to look up). - Item 475 Sachi/Stu. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 478 Stu/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 602 This proposal covers the same item as 478. Steve/JimG. PASSED (unanimous) Added a bugnote about the duplication of proposal for 478. - Item 482 Can have built in methods for mailboxes and semaphores. We have a vpiUserDefined in 32.21 and vpiUserDefinedClass in 32.22. Process should be returned for vpiClassType too. Replace vpiUserDefined in 32.21 with vpiClassType. Remove vpiUserDefined from annex I. Replace vpiBuiltIn with vpiUserDefn in 32.27 (and make vpiUserDefn in blue). vpiUserDefn should be outside the internal dotted enclosure. Remove vpiBuiltIn from annex I. Remove vpiClassType from 32.22. Should remove Note one in 32.21 (was removed in proposal for 468). - Item 494 JimG/Tapati. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 497 Stu/Bassam. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 440 JimV/Bassam. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 531 Steve/JimG. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 495 Steve/Stu. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 425 Also need to change 29.3.2.2 (first sentence) Also need to remove from 31.10. Also need to take it out of include file. Chas to update proposal. - Item 422 Friendly amendment to delete 30.1.2 Stu/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 423 JimV/Tapati. PASSED (unanimous) JimV added a bugnote to 436 to handle Michael's concerns about 30.4.1 and 30.4.2. - Item 427 Steve/Tapati. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 431 Assign to Bassam, with the intent of trying to make the correlation with 24.9 and to consider the additional centralization as written in the original question. - Item 432 Friendly amendment to change the first sentence to: The fine grained step control constant vpiAssertionClockSteps indicates callbacks on a per assertion/clock-tick basis. Friendly amendment to delete last sentence. JimG/Bassam. PASSED as amended (unanimous). Meeting ended at 3:00pm EDT. 6. Old Business 7. Action items SV-CC action items: - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve printing from Rational Rose. - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties shipping the UML for the diagrams. - JimV to enter a new SV-CC item for adding tables for return values of the properties. - Stu to file new SV-CC item that will address bigger issue he pointed out in Item 321. - Francoise and Chas to investigate what to do for systemVerilog and generates - Chas to redo proposal for Item 372. - Chas to redo proposal for Item 417. - Chas/Francoise to review/change proposal for Item 455. - Chas to redo proposal for Item 463. - Chas to ask the P1800 committee for some period of time after the other committees have completed their work so that the SV-CC can react to their changes. - Francoise to clarify definition of frames for Item 465. - JimV to redo proposal for Item 533. - Chas to lookup definition of vpiFullName in 1364 for Item 610. - Sachi to rework proposal for Item 482. - Chas to update proposal for Item 425. - Bassam to work on new proposal for Item 431. PTF action items: - Steve to compare BNF with the access available for attributes to see if they match - Stu to enter new PTF item for save/restart/reset issue. - Francoise to lookup wording for PTF 524 in VHPI. - Francoise will open a new PTF issue to look for situations like 25.6.15, where multiple methods are used access the same object enclosure - Chas to reword proposal for PTF 525. - Francoise to file a PTF item that asks to specify the order that iteration occur in, when the order is important. - Steve to add ETF item for Annex C to remove the Informative label, but still allow the contents to be optional. - Chas to file an Item on the usage of the term "tags" at the beginning of clause 27. 8. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals): - Item 426 29.3.2.1 Return value of vpi_get_assertion_info() is backwards - Item 433 30 - incorrect title - Item 434 30.1.3 Last sentence is not clear - Item 586 31.8.7 sentence need clarification - Item 585 31.8.6 font issue - Item 455 32.12.1 poorly written paragraphs - Item 489 32.38 Need better definition of a ref obj object. - Item 447 32.5 missing types for properties - Item 526 VPI references to dynamic objects prevent garbage collection - Item 372 PTF 312: Need two new time related callbacks - Item 417 PTF 311 Problem with loads in VPI - Item 605 32.2 & 32.3 & 32.6 vpiDefaultClocking is not in include file - Item 463 32.16 should not perpetuate unused functionality - Item 345 VPI changes to support Encryption -- Charles Dawson Senior Engineering Manager NC-Verilog Team Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 (978) 262 - 6273 chas@cadence.comReceived on Mon Apr 11 14:14:08 2005
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