Michael, I updated 431 with Jim's amendment, and deleted the older proposals. Thx. -Bassam. -- Dr. Bassam Tabbara Architect, R&D Novas Software Inc. (408) 467-7893 -----Original Message----- From: owner-sv-cc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-cc@eda.org] On Behalf Of Charles Dawson Sent: Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:12 PM To: SV-CC Subject: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 04/27/2005 Minutes of 04/27/2005 SV-CC Meeting. 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Reviewed Patent information. - Charles Dawson reviewed the patent information. 2. Reviewed minutes of the 04/20/2005 Meeting. - Ralph/JimV ACCEPTED 3. Liaisons - Francoise reports that SV-BC will likely be doing stuff today that may effect SV-CC. Nothing else to report. 4. New business - Schedule and status Chas requested everyone to comment on which Items they felt they would not be able to complete in the given time: - JimV reported that he won't be able to get to Item 436. - Chas reported that Section 31 is not going to get fixed. - Steve suggested that we might make section 31 as optional. - Doug would like to see chas write up what his main objections are. - Francoise reported that she won't be able to complete Items 305 and 306. - Tapati will start looking at these, but no expectations for this rev. - Francoise reported that Item 484 will be hard to do because we don't have a separate section for callbacks. Probably is a job for next rev of spec. - Several assigned to people who are not participating. Chas to re-assign. Chas then asked if there was anyone who could handle more than what is currently assigned to them. - Doug could handle a few easy ones. - JimG too. - Tapati is covering for Sachi. - Sachi is on vacation - Item 611 is a duplicate of Item 695. Francoise and Doug reviewed and okay with Cliff's changes. Steve/Francoise. PASSED (unanimous). - Item 617 Chas has already done this one. Assigned to Chas. - Francoise has added proposals for Items 489, 465, and 528. - Discussed when to have the next meeting. Decided that Weds 5/4 from 11-1 would work. 5. Reviewed of items with proposals. - Item 482 JimV/Tapati. PASSED (Michael abstains - just joined, no time too look) - Item 606 This one has a pretty good description on what should be done. Francoise and Tapati think we need a refObj in the dotted enclosure on the right hand side. Tapati also thinks we should add a note with the example from the mantis item. Tapati to add. - Item 604 Michael/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 425 31.10 "CHANGE" should be "TO". Michael/Ralph. PASSED as amended (unanimous). Chas to update proposal. - Item 487 Operation in 32.34 is bold; should not be. Other related Items are 531, 684, 685, and 686. . JimV thinks we should leave note here. Chas okay with that. Ralph to work with JimV to fix other issues found. - Item 431 JimG made a friendly amendment to change: Usage example: vpi_control(vpiAssertionSysStop, handle) to Usage example: vpi_control(vpiAssertionSysOff, handle) and Usage example: vpi_control(vpiAssertionSysStart, handle) to Usage example: vpi_control(vpiAssertionSysOn, handle) JimV/Tapati. PASSED (unanimous) as amended. Michael to add amendment to mantis. - Item 435 JimV/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 526 Ralph would like Jim's more detailed description to end up in the next version Friendly amendment to change "An" to "A". Chas would like to see a statement about an error instead of paragraph 3. JimV added new proposal. Rohit/Steve. PASSED (unanimous). Proposal already updated. - Item 489 Friendly amendment to 32.10 to change note 3 to: The vpiDirection of an io decl which vpiExpr is a ref obj of an interface or a modport declaration is undefined. Friendly amendment to add modport to LHS of 32.10. Francoise was concerned about the bolding/italics/..etc for the example in 32.12.1 Chas said that we would probably get it wrong anyway, so leave for the editor to make sure it is okay. Francoise has a problem with vpiModPort and vpiInterface for reg objs. vpiTypedef should be NULL for these. Add vpiDefName for them instead. Add notes for vpiTypespec for Named events too. Chas asked that we fix the comments in the examples to be more explicit and grammatically correct. JimV wanted to change font on explanatory portions of examples. Francoise to redo proposal. - Item 465 JimV still confused about the need for the process in the unnamed dotted enclosure. If the first sentence is clarified (has grammatical issues), this problem may be resolved. Francoise to work with JimV on this. - Item 528 Discussed with out Francoise. Meeting ended at 2:02pm EDT. 6. Old Business 7. Action items SV-CC action items: - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve printing from Rational Rose. - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties shipping the UML for the diagrams. - JimV to enter a new SV-CC item for adding tables for return values of the properties. - Stu to file new SV-CC item that will address bigger issue he pointed out in Item 321. - Francoise and Chas to investigate what to do for systemVerilog and generates - Chas/Francoise to review/change proposal for Item 455. - Chas to redo proposal for Item 463. - Francoise to clarify definition of frames for Item 465. - Chas to lookup definition of vpiFullName in 1364 for Item 610. - Sachi to rework proposal for Item 482. - Bassam to work on new proposal for Item 431. - Chas to review assignments and redo where necessary. - Tapati to rework Item 606. - Chas to update proposal for Item 425. - Ralph to work with JimV to fix other issues found in Item 487. - Michael to update proposal for Item 431. - Francoise to rework Item 489. - Francoise and Jim to rework Item 465. PTF action items: - Steve to compare BNF with the access available for attributes to see if they match - Stu to enter new PTF item for save/restart/reset issue. - Francoise to lookup wording for PTF 524 in VHPI. - Francoise will open a new PTF issue to look for situations like 25.6.15, where multiple methods are used access the same object enclosure - Chas to reword proposal for PTF 525. - Francoise to file a PTF item that asks to specify the order that iteration occur in, when the order is important. - Steve to add ETF item for Annex C to remove the Informative label, but still allow the contents to be optional. - Chas to file an Item on the usage of the term "tags" at the beginning of clause 27. 8. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals): - Item 617 Program can contain final blocks - Item 489 32.38 Need better definition of a ref obj object. - Item 465 32.19 Please clarify vpiWaitingProcesses iteration - Item 528 32.21 missing iteration on type declarations -- Charles Dawson Senior Engineering Manager NC-Verilog Team Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 (978) 262 - 6273 chas@cadence.comReceived on Thu Apr 28 21:45:42 2005
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