Minutes of 05/04/2005 SV-CC Meeting. 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Reviewed Patent information. - Charles Dawson reviewed the patent information. 2. Reviewed minutes of the 04/28/2005 Meeting. - Minutes say meeting occurred as on 04/27/2005 when it was actually 04/28/2005. - JimV/Tapati. ACCEPTED as amended. 3. Liaisons - Chas commented that there is now a draft 5 and that everyone should be reviewing the acknowledged items. The committee reviewed the process that we should follow. - Chas noted the 4 new items filed by the Champions (717, 718, 719, 721). 4. New business - Meeting Schedule Chas asked who would be able to make the meeting on 05/10. Tapati is available. Ralph won't be available. Chas will determine the length of the meeting when we have a better idea of what will need to get done. - Michael's ideas on IP protection. Steve will be incorporating Michael's comments into his proposal. Steve hopes to have a new version out by tomorrow. - Items 717, 718, 719, 721 Francoise will take a look at Item 717. Chas will take on Item 718. 719 - Post elab means may already be resolved by VPI time. Francoise will try to do this one too. 721 - JimV will try to do this one. - Issue 266 This is the Notes problem that Cliff has been working on. Cliff asked the SV-CC to comment on the following: - 29.5.2 This one has been resolved by Item 432. Nothing for Cliff to do. - 30.2.2.2 After discussion, the SV-CC committee recommended that Cliff leave the section as is. - 32.2-32.49 The SV-CC committee has review the change proposal for this section and are okay with it. - We will need another meeting to vote on current proposals. Time chosen was Friday between 11-1pm EDT. 5. Reviewed of items with proposals. - Item 650 Program and interface access to initial, always and final blocks is not supported Rohit/Francoise. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 489 32.38 Need better definition of a ref obj object. JimV/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 465 32.19 Please clarify vpiWaitingProcesses iteration JimV/Ralph. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 496 32.43 No explanation for a regular assignment Francoise/Ralph. PASSED (unanimous) Tapati to provide HTML or PDF. - Item 541 26.2.1 Several uses of the term 'user' JimV/Steve. Motion to close as a duplicate of 539. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 539 26.1 use of 'user' JimV/Ralph. PASSED (unanimous) - Ralph moves that we direct the editor to use the term "user-defined system task or function" where appropriate. JimV seconds. PASSED (unanimous) Chas to write up the actual wording of the directive. - Item 429 Need a separate section on VPI routines Steve/JimV. Move that our response be that we will resolve this in the next version of the spec. PASSED (unanimous) Meeting ended at 1:02pm EDT. 6. Old Business 7. Action items SV-CC action items: - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve printing from Rational Rose. - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties shipping the UML for the diagrams. - JimV to enter a new SV-CC item for adding tables for return values of the properties. - Stu to file new SV-CC item that will address bigger issue he pointed out in Item 321. - Francoise and Chas to investigate what to do for systemVerilog and generates - Chas/Francoise to review/change proposal for Item 455. - Chas to redo proposal for Item 463. - Francoise to clarify definition of frames for Item 465. - Chas to lookup definition of vpiFullName in 1364 for Item 610. - Sachi to rework proposal for Item 482. - Bassam to work on new proposal for Item 431. - Chas to review assignments and redo where necessary. - Tapati to rework Item 606. - Chas to update proposal for Item 425. - Ralph to work with JimV to fix other issues found in Item 487. - Michael to update proposal for Item 431. - Francoise to rework Item 489. - Francoise and Jim to rework Item 465. - Tapati to provide HTML or PDF for Item 496. - Chas to write up directive for "user-defined system task" issue. PTF action items: - Steve to compare BNF with the access available for attributes to see if they match - Stu to enter new PTF item for save/restart/reset issue. - Francoise to lookup wording for PTF 524 in VHPI. - Francoise will open a new PTF issue to look for situations like 25.6.15, where multiple methods are used access the same object enclosure - Chas to reword proposal for PTF 525. - Francoise to file a PTF item that asks to specify the order that iteration occur in, when the order is important. - Steve to add ETF item for Annex C to remove the Informative label, but still allow the contents to be optional. - Chas to file an Item on the usage of the term "tags" at the beginning of clause 27. 8. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals): - Item 528 32.21 missing iteration on type declarations - Item 547 32.47 two tagged pattern objects in pattern class - Item 458 32.13 Question on the range relation - Item 451 32.5 Why the need for an interface tf decl? - Item 450 32.7 confusing note - Item 377 "32.25 Module path, path term" does not reflect all the changes made in P1364 - Item 376 26.6.6 Need to remove multiple labels on a one arrow - Item 437 30.4.4 Last paragraph does not make sense - Item 441 Annex I - Assertion #defines overlaps with object types - Item 416 27 - Need to not use the ambiguous term 'user' - Item 455 32.12.1 poorly written paragraphs - Item 487 32.34 Order of operands should be in 32.39 -- Charles Dawson Senior Engineering Manager NC-Verilog Team Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 (978) 262 - 6273 chas@cadence.comReceived on Wed May 4 13:25:51 2005
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