[sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting minutes for 01/03/2007

From: Charlie Dawson <chas_at_.....>
Date: Wed Jan 03 2007 - 12:20:20 PST
Minutes of 01/03/2007 SV-CC Meeting.

ATTENDEES
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xxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson
xxx-x-xxxx Ralph Duncan
xxxxxxxxxx Jim Vellenga
xxxx-x-xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk
xx-xxxxxxx Abigail Moorhouse
--xxxxxx-x Michael Rohleder
xxxxxxxxxx Chuck Berking
xxxx-xxxxx Bassam Tabbara
-x-xxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle
x----xx-xx Amit Kohli
xxxxxxxxx- Ghassan Khoory


1.  Reviewed Patent information.

   - Chas reviewed the patent information.


2.  Reviewed minutes of the 12/06/2006 Meeting.

   - Chuck/Ralph.  ACCEPTED (unanimous)


3.  Liaisons

   - Chas reported that he heard from Amit Kohli that the SV-XC has moved
     their meeting to every other Wednesday opposite the SV-CC meetings.
   - Ralph asked what interest they had in the DPI - SystemC connection?
     Amit reviewed their current top 5 questions.
   - No other meetings to report.


4.  New business

   - rand issue
     Ralph reported on several grammar issues.
     DPI imports and exports cannot appear in class definitions.
     Could we see formals with rand and randc?  Only for a member of a struct
     or a union.  Should also address: can manage to send actuals with
     rand qualifiers be matched with DPI formals that do not have those
     qualifiers thru OOMRs.  Wants to allow it but ignore them.  The latest
     email attempts to articulate this, and address Francoise and Andrzej's
     concerns.  If people are okay with the language, he will try to put
     together a proposal to that effect.

   - No other new business

5.  Reviewed items with proposals.

   - Item 1614 P1800-2005: 27.52 no expr for disable fork objects
     Jim thinks it is correct.
     JimV/Chuck.  PASSED (unanimous)

   - Item 1631 P1800-2005 27.14 note k has an error
     Friendly amendment to change 'vpiType' to 'type'.
     JimV/Ralph.  PASSED (unanimous) as amended. Chas to update proposal.

   - Item 1664 IEEE 1800-2005 27.7 Note 'e': First sentence should be rewritten
     JimV asked why they would be ambiguous.  Francoise would probably know.
     JimV eventually answered his own question.
     JimV/Abi.  PASSED (unanimous)

   - Item 1669 P1800-2005 Sections 27.34 and 27.36 commas are inconsistent
     Friendly amendment to change 'show' to 'shown'.
     Bassam asked if these changes would be reflected in the merged diagrams
     document.  Chas said he would update it.
     Chuck/Ralph.  PASSED (unanimous) as amended.  Chas to update proposal.

   - Item 1632 P1800-2005 sections 27.14 note k and 27.22 note f are incompatible
     Got rid of the one with the value, because it would not have any value to
     have the value.
     Abi/Chuck.  PASSED (unanimous)

   - Item 1684 vpiParent clarification needed for complex var/net objects
     Chuck needs to review Abi's issues with slices.  Need to differentiate
     between parent and scope.  Parental relations stays within objects that
     have a value.  Have to be careful with class variable and class objects.
     Which do you use?
     Chuck withdraws the proposal for now.

   - Item 1700 vpiTimeConst and vpiNullConst have the same value
     Friendly amendment to leave vpiOneStepConst and vpiUnboundedConst
     alone and just move vpiNullConst to value '11'.
     Ralph/JimV.  PASSED (unanimous) as amended. JimV to update proposal.


JimV/Bassam.  Meeting ended at 1:05pm.


6.  Reviewed SV-CC items with proposals (Straw poll only).


7.  Old Business


8.  Action items
   - Ongoing review of Michael and Abi's compatibility proposal.
   - Francoise and Bassam to continue work on assignment patterns.
   - Francoise to champion adding support for typed parameters to the
     typespec diagrams.
   - Abi to champion adding support for parameterized classes.
   - Abi/JimV to champion improving the ability to compare objects.
   - Steve Dovich to determine best way to deal with issues between versions
     of the IEEE specs.
   - Chas and JimV to update proposals with friendly amendments.


9.  Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals):

   - Item 1684 vpiParent clarification needed for complex var/net objects


10. Next meeting
   The next SV-CC meeting will be on 01/17/2007.
   The next P1800 meeting will be on 01/04/2007.

--
Charles Dawson
Senior Engineering Manager
NC-Verilog Team
Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
270 Billerica Road
Chelmsford, MA  01824
(978) 262 - 6273
chas@cadence.com

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