RE: [sv-cc] Meeting minutes for 05/23/2007

Hi Charles,

There is a conflict between my calendar and the extended SV-CC call time
starting at 11:30 am EDT. Extending the call on the other end, to 1:30
PM EDT works for me. 
However, if the majority of members prefer an 11:30 start then I can
join at 12.

Thanks,
/gjk 

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From: owner-sv-cc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-cc@eda.org] On Behalf Of
Charlie Dawson
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 6:32 PM
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Subject: [sv-cc] Meeting minutes for 05/23/2007

Minutes of 05/23/2007 SV-CC Meeting.

ATTENDEES
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x-xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson
xxxxx-xxxxxxx-x-xxxx Ralph Duncan
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Vellenga
xxxxxxxxxx-xxx-x-xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk
xxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxx Abigail Moorhouse
xxxxx-xxxx--xxxxxx-x Michael Rohleder
xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx Chuck Berking
xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx Bassam Tabbara
xxxx-xx-xx-x-xxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle
xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx- Ghassan Khoory
-x-----xx----------- Steve Dovich
-x--x--xxxx----xx-xx Amit Kohli
----x--------------- Stu Sutherland
--x----------------- Gord Vreugdenhil
x------------------- Pankaj Pal
x------------------- Anil Arora

0.  Reviewed Patent information

    - Chas reviewed the patent information.


1.  Pankaj and Anil introduced themselves


2.  Reviewed minutes of the 05/09/2007 Meeting
     - Ralph/JimV.  ACCEPTED (unanimous)


3.  Liaisons
    - Francoise talked about an upgrade to Mantis.  Dave Rich is
      driving this.  He is going to make it more useful.
    - The other committees have been trying to figure out how to
      review the latest LRM.  Each committee has broken up the
      sections to assign to each member of the committee.
    - The SV-BC has been very active in working on issues such
      as name resolution.
    - No other meetings to report on.


4.  New business

   - Action items from Neil on draft 3.
     Talked about reviewing the cross references.  Decided to
     split it up as follows:
       Section      Reviewer
         34          Ralph
         35          Abi
         36          Chuck
         37          Chas
         38          Bassam
         39          Michael
         40          Bassam
          I          Ralph
          K          Michael

     Chas to take a look for questions from Editor in these sections
     and either answer them himself or parcel them out to other
committee
     members as appropriate.

   - Request to SV-BC committee to consider language in the LRM to
require
     implementations to have a mapping file which will bind names to
$units
     objects?
     Abi moves that we do this.  Chuck seconds. ACCEPTED.
     Chas to send the actual request.

   - Stu's question on the merged DPI clauses.
     Ralph and Doug agree with Stu.  Chas suggested that the easiest way
     to deal with this would be to file a mantis item against draft 3
and
     then create a proposal.  Ralph will try to do this for the next
meeting.

   - Chuck's writeup on packed arrays.
     Chuck suggested that a vpiBaseElement could be added to the
     Packed Arrays proposal in order to have a vpiReg equivalent
     method to get the leaf level element from any packed array
     (and perhaps any unpacked array).  This would be more convenient
     than having to incrementally go through intermediate array levels
     using vpiElement.  Abi commented that this would be yet another way
     to get elements from an array, totaling now 4 ways and that was too
     many.  JimV questioned whether vpiBaseElement would apply to
     vpiLogicVar and vpiBitVar.  JimV asked what would be returned for
     the case of an unpacked array with a dynamic sub-array. Chuck
     replied that both cases should be considered further, and requested
     input from others be forwarded via email.

   - Extending the meeting.
     Abi would prefer adding an extra half hour before the meeting.
     Ralph is okay with it.  So beginning next meeting we will go for
1.5
     hours, starting at 11:30am EDT.


Motion to adjourn Abi/Micheal.  Meeting ended at 1:04pm.


5.  Reviewed items with proposals

6.  Reviewed SV-CC items with proposals (Straw poll only)

7.  Old Business

8.  Action items

   - Francoise and Bassam to continue work on assignment patterns.
   - Francoise to champion adding support for typed parameters to the
     typespec diagrams.
   - Abi to champion adding support for parameterized classes.
   - Abi/JimV to champion improving the ability to compare objects.
   - All to verify their Acknowledged Mantis Items.
   - Steve to send out exact text on referring to a prior version.
   - Chas to gather a list of all SV-CC approved mantis items which have
     not been incorporated into draft 2.
   - Francoise, with Chuck's help, to put few questions together and
send it
     to Michael on deprecation of the term memory.
   - Francoise to inquire from sv-bc on the current thinking regarding
     deprecation of the term memory.
   - Francoise to ask Stu from user perspective on need for callbacks in
the
     pre and post observed regions.
   - Michael to provide user perspective on need for callbacks in the
pre and
     post observed regions
   - Ralph to work on a proposal to solve Stu's DPI issue.
   - All to review xrefs in draft 3.
   - Chas to send a request to SV-BC committee to consider language in
the LRM
     to require implementations to have a mapping file which will bind
names
     to $units objects.
   - Chas to take a look for questions from Editor in these sections
     and either answer them himself or parcel them out to other
committee
     members as appropriate.

9.  Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have
proposals)

   - Item 1726 Clarify meaning of vpiConstantSelect
   - Item 1741 1800-2005 Section 27.50 Issues with foreach diagram
   - Item 1385 Please document compatibility issues between 1364 and
1800 VPI


10. Next meeting
    The next SV-CC meeting will be on 06/06/2007.
    The next P1800 meeting will be on 05/24/2007.


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