[sv-cc] Meeting minutes for 06/06/2007

From: Charlie Dawson <chas_at_.....>
Date: Fri Jun 08 2007 - 08:21:47 PDT
Minutes of 06/06/2007 SV-CC Meeting.

ATTENDEES
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xx-xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson
xxxxxx-xxxxxxx-x-xxxx Ralph Duncan
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Vellenga
xxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-x-xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk
xxxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxx Abigail Moorhouse
-xxxxx-xxxx--xxxxxx-x Michael Rohleder
xxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx Chuck Berking
-xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx Bassam Tabbara
xxxxx-xx-xx-x-xxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle
xxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx- Ghassan Khoory
--x-----xx----------- Steve Dovich
x-x--x--xxxx----xx-xx Amit Kohli
-----x--------------- Stu Sutherland
---x----------------- Gord Vreugdenhil
xx------------------- Pankaj Pal
xx------------------- Anil Arora
x-------------------- Arjinder Vasir

1.  Reviewed Patent information

    - Chas reviewed the NEW patent information which can be
      found at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt


2.  Reviewed minutes of the 05/23/2007 Meeting
     - Chuck/Andrzej.  ACCEPTED (unanimous)


3.  Liaisons
   - P1800 has new operating procedures and patent policy.
   - Francoise had no other meetings to report on.
   - No other meetings to report on.


4.  New business
   - Shalom's question on import/export function result types
     Jim really did not like "singular".  Andrzej would prefer
     to have a xref to something that definitively defined the
     terms.  Probably not a Mantis Item... probably should be
     one.  Shalom should add one, then we could make a proposal
     for solving the problem.

   - Update on review of draft 3 cross references.
       Section      Reviewer    Status
         34          Ralph      Partially done.  One error found.
         35          Abi        Done.
         36          Chuck      1/3 done.  Found issue:
                                Term "class" used in how to read diagrams
         37          Chas       Done.
         38          Bassam
         39          Michael
         40          Bassam
          I          Ralph      Not done.
          K          Michael

   - Declare Item 1654 a duplicate of 0754?
     Move to declare duplicate.  Ralph/Abi.  PASSED (unanimous)

   - Declare Item 1834 as Not a bug?
     JimV suggests that we tell them that it is okay to get a older version
     of the specification.  Chuck says that it is in deprecated sections.
     Move to declare as not a bug.  JimV/Chuck.  PASSED (unanimous)
     Chas to append explanation.

   - Declare Item 1628 a duplicate of 0741?
     Move to declare duplicate.  JimV/Ralph.  PASSED (unanimous)


5.  Reviewed items with proposals

   - Item 1726 Clarify meaning of vpiConstantSelect
     JimV still has to review.
     JimV moves to postpone. Chuck seconds.  ACCEPTED

   - Item 1741 1800-2005 Section 27.50 Issues with foreach diagram
     JimV needs to refer to sections in draft 3 (currently refers to
     sections from draft 2).   Friendly amendment to get rid of vpiStmt
     label from in 36.63.  JimV/Francoise.  PASSED (unanimous)

   - Item 1385 Please document compatibility issues between 1364 and 1800 VPI
     Friendly amendment to put the macros into a separate include file which
     is included in vpi_user.h.  Chas pointed out that this would make it less
     likely for application developers to call the actual routines.  Abi
     doesn't like that we have to do this, but that it would be good that we
     are all on the same page for this problem.  New annex right after
     sv_vpi_user.h.  Call it vpi_compat.h or vpi_compatibility.h
     Abi/Chuck.  Abi thinks the friendly amendment changes are too complex.
     Abi withdraws the motion.  Move to postpone debate until the friendly
     amendment can be written up.  Chuck/JimV.  ACCEPTED


6.  Reviewed SV-CC items with proposals (Straw poll only)

   - Item 1837 Wrong outline for net in VPI generate diagram
     JimV moves to accept.  Chas notices that 'net' is not in italics.
     Other references have not been updated.  should compare to the instance
     diagram.  JimV withdraws his motion.  Chas to work on it some more.

Motion to adjourn Chuck/Abi.  Meeting ended at 1:02pm.

   - Item 1699 1800-2005+ draft 3 sections 36.34 and 36.68 problem with vpiReturn
   - Item 0793 29.4.3 has vpiAssertVacuousSuccessCovered but missing in include file
   - Others?

7.  Old Business

8.  Action items

   - Francoise and Bassam to continue work on assignment patterns.
   - Francoise to champion adding support for typed parameters to the
     typespec diagrams.
   - Abi to champion adding support for parameterized classes.
   - Abi/JimV to champion improving the ability to compare objects.
   - All to verify their Acknowledged Mantis Items.
   - Steve to send out exact text on referring to a prior version.
   - Chas to gather a list of all SV-CC approved mantis items which have
     not been incorporated into draft 2.
   - Francoise, with Chuck's help, to put few questions together and send it
     to Michael on deprecation of the term memory.
   - Francoise to inquire from SV-BC on the current thinking regarding
     deprecation of the term memory.
   - Francoise to ask Stu from user perspective on need for callbacks in the
     pre and post observed regions.
   - Michael to provide user perspective on need for callbacks in the pre and
     post observed regions
   - Ralph to work on a proposal to solve Stu's DPI issue.
   - All to review xrefs in draft 3.
   - Chas to send a request to SV-BC committee to consider language in the LRM
     to require implementations to have a mapping file which will bind names
     to $units objects.
   - Chas to take a look for questions from Editor in these sections
     and either answer them himself or parcel them out to other committee
     members as appropriate.


9.  Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals)


10. Next meeting
    The next SV-CC meeting will be on 06/20/2007.
    The next P1800 meeting will be on 07/12/2007.


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