[sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting Minutes for 08/22/2007

From: Charlie Dawson <chas_at_.....>
Date: Wed Aug 22 2007 - 13:49:40 PDT
Minutes of 08/22/2007 SV-CC Meeting.

ATTENDEES
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xxx-xxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson
xx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx-x-xxxx Ralph Duncan
--xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Vellenga
xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-x-xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk
--xx--xxxxx-xxxx--xxxxxx-x Michael Rohleder
xxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx Chuck Berking
x--xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx Bassam Tabbara
xxxxxxxxxx-xx-xx-x-xxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle
---xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx- Ghassan Khoory
-----xxxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxx Abigail Moorhouse
x--xxxx------------------- Pankaj Pal
x--xxxx------------------- Anil Arora
----xx-------------------- Arjinder Vasir
---xxx-x--x--xxxx----xx-xx Amit Kohli
----------x--------------- Stu Sutherland
--------x----------------- Gord Vreugdenhil
-------x-----xx----------- Steve Dovich
x------------------------- Neil Korpusik


1.  Reviewed Patent information

   - Chas reviewed the patent information which can be
     found at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt


2.  Reviewed minutes for 07/18/2007 and 08/01/2007 and 08/15/2007

   - Chuck/Bassam.  ACCEPTED (unanimous).


3.  Liaisons

   - Chas talked about Neil's message.
     We need to update the proposals we made so that the reference draft 3A.
     The current list is:

     Item   Owner
      985   JimV
     1603   JimV
     1614   Chas
     1631   Chas
     1632   Chas
     1664   Chas
     1669   Chas
     1684   Chuck
     1699   Chas
     1700   JimV
     1716   Ralph

   - SV-BC may have a face to face to deal with name resolution.  Someone should try
     to join the meeting... sometime in mid-September, probably in CA.

   - Neil reported that the next Champions meeting is Sept 5th.


4.  New business

   - Chas talked about voting rights and meetings without quorum
     We have a problem where it is possible to get into a situation where we can
     never have another meeting (if enough people show up for two meetings in a
     row, then never attend another). Until he gets guidance from the P1800
     committee, he is going to assume that meetings which do not achieve quorum
     will still count against voting rights.

   - Item 1599 The assertion API and VPI sections need changes as per mantis #805
     Bassam described the reasons for the proposal.  Chas wants to look at this
     some more, so we tabled it for now.

   - Item 1361 need a way to control execution of action blocks
     Bassam needs to get better motivation from the requestor.  Chas would like to
     review in detail.  Table for now.

   - Item 1603 Unused vpiMultiArray declaration in vpi_user.h
     This is not an issue because it was never in the vpi_user.h file.  Chas doesn't
     think that this is a compatibility issue.  Stu should go ahead and implement.

   - Item 1942 Deprecated vpiArray property still appears in several places where vpiArrayMember should replace it.
     Chuck did a systematic review looking for vpiArray and found these.  He will
     write a proposal.  Bassam noted that it is still in vpi_user.h.  Chuck responded that
     it has been deprecated but not removed.


5.  Reviewed items with proposals

   - Item 1865 Definition of `s_vpi_vecval' in `svdpi.h' and `vpi_user.h'
     Someone was supposed to try a test.  Chas thinks it was JimV, but the
     minutes did not record who.  JimV to run some tests.

   - Item 1946 Clarify vpiSize for string vars and other SystemVerilog variable types
     What happens for a string constant?  LRM does not say.  We should update 26.48 Expressions
     to be consistent.  Francoise and Bassam, can try it out to see what happens today.
     Chuck asked if a vpiStringVar considered packed or unpacked?
     Maybe we should have a vpiStrlen or something like that to get the number of chars.

   - Item 1947 vpiTask, vpiFunction for built-in method calls
     Chuck moves to accept.  Ralph seconds.  PASSED (unanimous)


Motion to adjourn Chuck/Andrzej. Meeting adjourned at 1:00pm.


6.  Reviewed SV-CC items with proposals (Straw poll only)

7.  Old Business

8.  Action items

   - Francoise and Bassam to continue work on assignment patterns.
   - Francoise to champion adding support for typed parameters to the
     typespec diagrams.
   - Abi to champion adding support for parameterized classes.
   - Abi/JimV to champion improving the ability to compare objects.
   - Steve to send out exact text on referring to a prior version.
   - Chas to take a look for questions from Editor in these sections
     and either answer them himself or parcel them out to other
     committee members as appropriate.
   - JimV to test that the fix for Item 1865 will not cause compilation warnings.
   - Francoise and Bassam to figure out what should happen when you get the
     size of a string constant.
   - Bassam to get reasoning behind changes in Item 1361.
   - Chas, JimV, Chuck, and Ralph to update their already passed proposals to
     reference Draft 3A.


9.  Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals)

   - Item 1865 Definition of `s_vpi_vecval' in `svdpi.h' and `vpi_user.h'
   - Item 1946 Clarify vpiSize for string vars and other SystemVerilog variable types
   - Item 1952 "Null argument" to mean "omitted argument" may be confusing
   - Item 1726 Clarify meaning of vpiConstantSelect
   - Item 1837 Wrong outline for net in VPI generate diagram
   - Item 1970 What is vpiIndexTypespec for an array with a wildcard index type?
   - Item 1696 What is vpiRange for a dynamic array, assoc. array, queue?
   - Item 1599 The assertion API and VPI sections need changes as per mantis #805


10. Next meeting

    The next SV-CC meeting will be on 08/29/2007.
    The next P1800 meeting will be on 08/30/2007.



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