Minutes of 02/13/2008 SV-CC Meeting. ATTENDEES 00000000000000000000000000000000000000 88887777777777777777777777777666666666 00001111100000000000000000000111110000 21112210099888876655443322111221009988 13101002121221012020212121310200212131 30629574062925180639518484173068517306 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson ----xx-x-xxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx-x-xxxx Ralph Duncan xxxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Vellenga --x--xx--xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-x-xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk xx-xxx-xxxx---xx--xxxxx-xxxx--xxxxxx-x Michael Rohleder xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx Chuck Berking xxxx-xxxxx-xx--xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx Bassam Tabbara xxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx-xx-xx-x-xxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle xxx-xxxxxxxx---xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx- Ghassan Khoory xxxxxxxxxxxx-----xxxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxx Abigail Moorhouse -xxx-xx-x------xxx-x--x--xxxx----xx-xx Amit Kohli xx-xxx-------------x-----xx----------- Steve Dovich xxxxx--------------------------------- John Shields -xxx--x-xxxxx--xxxx------------------- Anil Arora -------x-xxxx--xxxx------------------- Pankaj Pal ---------x-x----xx-------------------- Arjinder Vasir ----------------------x--------------- Stu Sutherland --------------------x----------------- Gord Vreugdenhil -----------x-------------------------- Neil Korpusik --------x----------------------------- John Havlicek 1. Reviewed Patent information - Chas reviewed the patent information which can be found at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt 2. Reviewed minutes for 01/30/2008 Chuck/Steve. ACCEPTED 3. Liaisons - Chas reported that the P1800 committee agreed to give the SV-CC until the end of March to finish. Chas was concerned that the SV-AC issues may cause an additional delay. - No other meetings to report on. 4. Consent Agenda After some discussion on what should be on the consent agenda, we decided to move everything to new business. 4. New business - Declare Item 0587 a duplicate of Item 572 Chuck/Bassam. PASSED (unanimous) - Declare Item 0588 a duplicate of Item 572 Chuck/Bassam. PASSED (unanimous) - Declare Item 0589 a duplicate of Item 572 Chuck thinks that Bassam should look at this again. - Close Item 0559 as Not a Bug - clarification added as NOTE Group started to lose interest. Request was made to have another separate meeting on Data Read API. Chas to schedule a separate meeting after DVCon. 4. New business - Discussion of consent agenda Jim wants a way of moving things forward in the meeting that are not controversial. Chas to add approval of agenda into the agenda. Chas to add expedited section to agenda just before new business. - Item 1599 The assertion API and VPI sections need changes as per mantis #805 Bassam added xrefs Abi noted that the two new callbacks are not in the include file in the proposal. Abi asked to have a friendly amendment to add them. Jim/Chuck. PASSED as amended. Bassam to implement. - SV-AC issues reported by John Havlicek Abi thought that we were already overbooked. Chas to tell John that we do not have time to get more involved at this point. Chas thought it would be good if John came to the SV-CC meetings to discuss these items. Abi agreed. Chas to ask him to join us. - Item 2005 Some members of the committee did not like the #0 syntax because it is misleading. Several members had trouble understanding the entire issue that the proposal is trying to solve. Chuck moves that we tell the SV-AC that we have no objections to this proposal as far as the VPI portion is concerned. JimV noted that the place to put the #define is in the wrong place. Should have a "Replace" "with" context so it is easier to see. Chuck withdraws motion. Chuck would moves that we ask the SV-AC to move the #define. JimV. ACCEPTED. Chas to tell SV-AC. - Item 2250 No definition of a checker array? Is in 36.10. Chas asked if a checker could be in a package. Francoise thinks it can and this is a problem. JimV asked if they should be in programs? Francoise thinks they should not be. Should not be in a sequential context. Francoise will bring up at the Champions meeting. Motion to adjourn: Abi/Chuck. Meeting ended at 1:10pm 5. Reviewed items with proposals 6. Reviewed SV-CC items with proposals (Straw poll only) 7. Old Business 8. Action items - Francoise and Bassam to continue work on assignment patterns. - Francoise and Bassam to figure out what should happen when you get the size of a string constant. - Chas to update Item 1570. - Chas to ask the editor about Item 0417. - Steve to write a proposal for dealing with the inconsistencies with the protection properties. - Chas to talk with editor on re-arranging the VPI that is outside of the VPI sections. - Bassam, JimV, and Lisa Piper to work on issues found in Item 1503. - Chas to ask the editor for the framemaker for the Data Read API. - Chas to implement a "consent agenda" and an "Expedited Proposals" in agenda. - Chas to add an "Agenda Approval" to the agenda. - Chas to schedule another Data Read API meeting after DVCon. - Bassam to implement the friendly amendment to Item 1599. - Chas to ask John Havlicek to join the SV-CC meeting when we discuss SV-AC issues. - Chas to ask the SV-AC to fix the #defines in proposal for Item 2005. - Francoise to bring up the issues we found with Item 2250 at Champions meeting. 9. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals) - Item 1230 How to represent packed arrays of complex types in VPI - Item 2218 Clarify meaning of vpi_compare_objects() - Item 2216 Details missing from VPI Generates object diagram - Item 2143 How should VPI handle index expressions with side effects? - Item 2054 Draft 3A, Section 40 - Deprecate Data Read API - Item 2094 Need to extend VPI to handle class specializations - Item 1599 The assertion API and VPI sections need changes as per mantis #805 - Item 2262 Missing definition in vpi_user.h for vpiIsProtected - Item 1688 Performance of VPI access to memories and MDAs is inadequate - Item 0555 31.1 Introduction not needed in context of the larger document - Item 0556 31.2 Beginning of this section not needed in larger context of spec - Item 0557 31.3.1 specific references to objects should be removed - Item 0558 31.3.3 rename section to "Access availability" - Item 0560 31.4.1 & 31.4.2.1 Overloading vpi_handle() is a bad idea - Item 0561 31.4.2 vpi_free_object() should be explicitly referenced here - Item 0562 31.5 needless restriction on traverse object creation - poor terminology - Item 0563 31.5 diagram in figure 31-18 needs to be redrawn - Item 0565 31.6 remove first paragraph of this section - Item 0570 31.8.1 Need prototype for vpi_load_extension() - Item 0571 31.8.1 unnecessary complication added for vpi_close() - Item 0572 31.8 make use of the term 'user' - Item 0580 31.8.4 section is not necessary and colloquial - Item 0583 31.8.4.2 terminology first defined in a footnote? - Item 0584 31.8.4.2 implies that vpi_goto() creates new handle - Item 0593 31.12 Routines should be in table format - Item 2146 Data read API description references wrong header file - Item 2148 Unclear statement about error handling after calling vpi_unload() 10. Next meeting There will be a special SV-CC face to face meetings on 02/19/2008 and 02/22/2008. The next SV-CC meeting will be on 02/27/2008. The next P1800 meeting will be on 02/28/2008. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Fri Feb 15 16:13:59 2008
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