Minutes of 08/13/2008 SV-CC Meeting. ATTENDEES 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000 88888888888888887777777777777777777777777666666666 00000000000000001111100000000000000000000111110000 87765544333221112210099888876655443322111221009988 13102000211213101002121221012020212121310200212131 30641792692730629574062925180639518484173068517306 xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-xxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx Charles Dawson xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx--xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Jim Vellenga xx*xx-xxx-xxxx-xxx-xxxx---xx--xxxxx-xxxx--xxxxxx-x Michael Rohleder xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxxx Chuck Berking -xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx-xx--xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxx Bassam Tabbara xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxxx-xx-xx-x-xxxxxxx Francoise Martinolle xx-xxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxxx---xxxxxxxxxxx-xxxxxxxxxx- Ghassan Khoory xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-----xxxxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxxxx Abigail Moorhouse xxxx-x-xxxxxxxxxx--------------------------------- John Shields ================================================== ---xxxx-xx-x-xxx--x-xxxxx--xxxx------------------- Anil Arora --x---xx--x--------------------------------------- Erik Seligman -------xx-xxxx-xxx-------------x-----xx----------- Steve Dovich -----------x-xxx-xx-x------xxx-x--x--xxxx----xx-xx Amit Kohli ----------------xx-x-xxxxx-xxxxxxxx-xxxxxxx-x-xxxx Ralph Duncan --------------x--xx--xx-xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx-xxx-x-xxx Andrzej Litwiniuk -------------------x-xxxx--xxxx------------------- Pankaj Pal ---------------------x-x----xx-------------------- Arjinder Vasir ----------x-----------------------x--------------- Stu Sutherland --------------------------------x----------------- Gord Vreugdenhil --x--------------------x-------------------------- Neil Korpusik --------------------x----------------------------- John Havlicek 1. Reviewed Patent information - Chas reviewed the patent information which can be found at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt 2. Approval of agenda Chuck/Francoise APPROVED -- Charles Dawson Senior Engineering Manager NC-Verilog Team 3. Reviewed minutes for 07/30/2008 'Not' should be 'note' in discussion Item 2414. Jim actually meant next draft (post 2009 version) for Item 2449 which was not clear in the minutes. Chuck on Item 2447 Added enums to various places 'to the approved packed arrays proposal (Item 1230).' Jim/Chuck. ACCEPTED 4. Liaisons - Francoise reported on a Champions meeting from earlier in the week. The most active committee is still the SV-SC. They resolved some of the issues in 1900, 2414, ...etc found by the Champions. There is another Champions meeting next week. - No other meetings to report on. 5. Consent Agenda 6. Expedited Agenda Items 7. New business * Review comments from Champions meeting - Item 0742 - Review Champions friendly amendments and update proposal The Champions found at least 4 places where it was unclear what kind of parameter we were talking about. Jim meant 'parameter' to mean a value parameter, and always used 'type parameter' when referring to a type parameter. Abi asked if the language was clear on this: do they always use 'value parameter' where they used to have 'parameter' unless they mean both? Not sure, but probably not. Chuck moves to accept the changes as passed by the Champions. Jim seconds. PASSED (unanimous) Jim to update proposal. - Item 2226 - Clarify the proposal if necessary due to frame document John was not thrilled about the issues, but was willing to do it. He would need until the end of the month to update the proposal. We would also likely need to go about doing another review cycle. John will make a proposal to them on how to go about showing the proposal, and once they agree with it, he will need two weeks to actually implement it. The SV-CC may need some time to review the revised proposal. The intent is to make an entirely editorial revision. Any content change will be due to an error on the implementor's part. However, we should consider this a likely scenario. Chas thinks we should advise the editor to not implement other proposals in these sections until after receiving the revised proposal. John thinks that will not be likely to happen if there is agreement on the process ahead of time. John will reply to Stu and Shalom, explaining to them what he would like them to agree to. Chas will ask Stu to send framemaker docs to John ASAP. Chas will bring it up at tomorrow's P1800 meeting. - Jim asked if we had fixed the permissions problem. - Chuck mentioned that Item 2182 has been tabled to post 2009 ballot. Is this still the case? Abi reported that they are still working on the Checkers proposals. We should continue to work on it until noted otherwise, even if it doesn't end up in this LRM. Chuck thinks we should bring the subject up again at the next meeting. Can we differentiate between an instance and the definition of the checker? That was a sticking point the last time we talked. Motion to adjourn: Chuck/Abi . Meeting ended at 12:52pm. 8. Reviewed items with proposals 9. Reviewed SV-CC items with proposals (Straw poll only) 10. Old Business 11. Action items Assigned to Due date Description State Notify ChasDawson Tue, 29 Jul 2008 Enter Mantis Items for Krzysztof Konopko's questions edit AbiMoorhouse? Fri, 29 Aug 2008 Create a proposal to solve issues with Assertion properties as pointed out by Shalom. edit FrancoiseMartinolle Fri, 29 Aug 2008 Gather opinions on Item 2099 from Doug, Ralph, and Amit edit JohnShields Mon, 22 Sep 2008 Make sure the proposal for Mantis Item 2226 is relative to draft 7, which is scheduled for release on 9/10 edit 12. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals) 13. Next meeting The next? SV-CC meeting will be on 08/27/2008. The next P1800 meeting will be on 08/14/2008. -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean.Received on Tue Sep 9 14:04:45 2008
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