Subject: [sv-cc] Minutes for the SV-CC Conference Call @ 22-Apr-2003
From: Michael Rohleder (michael.rohleder@motorola.com)
Date: Mon Apr 28 2003 - 09:51:29 PDT
Attendees:
Swapnajit Mittra
Francoise Martinole
Doug Warmke
Bassam Tabbara
Andrzej Litwiniuk
Joao Geada
Ghassan Khoory
John Amouroux
Kevin Cameron
Michael Rohleder
Procedural work:
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Minutes of last meeting (15-Apr-2002): John A. proposed, Bassam seconded
Swapnajit started to describe the deadlines coming up and described some of the procedural aspects:
- We are now in the voting phase, this is an official (Accellera) vote, as a result only member companies are eligible to vote.
Non-members are invited to send in comments, but this can not be counted as a vote.
- There must be one person nominated for member companies having multiple people in the committee; for SV-CC there are two cases:
Synopsys (Joao volunteered), Mentor (Doug volunteered)
- A 'No' vote requires to state a reason for this. Reason must be within the scope of the SV-CC committee.
- Voting is secret, ballots need to be send to Swap & Ghassan by email, deadline for this is
5:00 pm PST Thursday
Swapnajit will send out an email confirmation soon.
- Joao needs to send any correction from our committee by TODAY 5:00 pm PST to Stu, please sent any errata information early enough
to him for coordinating last minute updates.
- A 2/3 majority is required for the draft to pass this vote.
Technical issue discussion:
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A) Issue related to the passing of strings as Andrzej indicated in some earlier email
- Joao defines that this is an implementation dependent issue
- Michael states that his understanding is that strings are passed as string literals, which implies several restrictions which
permits sufficient optimizations here. The rest will be up to the implementors. This is not related to classes.
- Francoise pointed out that there is no mention that strings are a class, they have methods like a class, but are not neccessarily
implemented as a built-in class.
- Francoise and Joao pointed out that this is only dependent on the actual implementation of strings within the simulator.
- Discussion about including a NUL character within the string. Since strings are passed as char*, the C world can only see until
the first NUL, although SV might have additional characters after this NUL. All agree.
B) There is one remaining issue (LRM298): What items should be included in the index ... Joao is working on this.
Francoise asked for other issues brought up by other people. Michael and Swapnajit indicated that this is the only issue related to
SV-CC marked as open by David Smith
C) Doug asked about the status of the issue (data type representation by SV) we sent to SV-BC. Swapnajit indicated there was no
response until now. Francoise believes it is not yet closed. Swapnajit stated that this is below our limit, proposes to mark this as
a SV 3.2 issue and highlight to Vassilios. Doug agrees.
Joao believes that the C interface will still work, even when SV does not define how its types are laid out; mapping of SV types on
the C side are properly defined, implementors might disagree on the representation at the SV side. As such he does not believe that
this must be stated in the normative part of the standard. Michael agrees, as long as the C (user) side of the DPI interface is
crystal clear defined. Francoise is still unsure about this. Doug asked Swapnajit to put this on the issue list for 3.2 and still
highlight it to Vassilios.
Doug asked whether the comments from Andrzej about draft 3 made it into draft 5. Joao stated that every correction he received made
it into the document; but he still asks people for double-checking. Doug looked
for this and thinks some stuff is missing. Doug, Joao and Andrzej will sort this out offline.
Michael asked for the result of the cross-review from SV-AC. Swapnajit has not received information from SV-AC (SV-AC seemed to be
too busy), but there were other people reviewing our work (there was some good feedback from Synopsys (e.g. Peter Flake) and
Francoise.
Swapnajit asked for other feedback. None until now. Please keep deadline for comments into account.
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