Subject: RE: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting Minutes for July 30, 2003
From: Warmke, Doug (doug_warmke@mentorg.com)
Date: Thu Jul 31 2003 - 03:01:08 PDT
Team,
It's OK with me to defer the external module declaration item
to the future. I agree with Joao that it may be a difficult
and problematic area. Also, SV-BC's separate compilation
task force is working on kind-of related items. It would probably
be wise to wait and see where that goes before trying to add
in C module bodies.
Regarding the 8/6 "donation commitment" deadline, could you please
be more specific what this means, Swapnajit? i.e. if someone has
a donation in mind, but isn't ready to send it out yet, would it
still be possible to send the donation after 8/6, even though it
wasn't committed to before that date?
Regards,
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Amouroux, John
To: 'sv-cc@server.eda.org'
Sent: 7/30/2003 9:57 AM
Subject: [sv-cc] SV-CC Meeting Minutes for July 30, 2003
SV-CC Meeting Minutes, for July 30, 2003:
Agenda::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
- Regular procedural work. [Swapnajit, 5 mins]
- Any org info from the last Chair's meeting [Ghassan]
- Closure on garbage collection (AI-3) [Andrzej/all, 10 minutes]
- Has 1390.html been covered in LRM-1?
(http://www.eda.org/sv/LRMChanges.html)
- Vote by 08/06/03.
- Closure on Doug's BNF question (AI-2) : Joao's notes to be added
to the BNF. [Joao, 10 mins]
(Joao, please send this changes to the team)
- Open vs Dynamic array. Proposal to SV-EC? [All, 10 mins]
- Any other issue you would like to bring up.
General::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Last week's minutes proposed for approval by John and seconded by Joao.
Ghassan discusses the last Chair's meeting.
Operational rules - we need to read them (on the web) and vote on them
next
week. This will be a company vote on next Wednesday (8/6).
Discussed how to handle the errata list. Joao is maintaining our
)(sv-cc)
list, and will pass changes to David Smith.
Deadline for next donation commitment is 8/6.
Garbage Collection::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
We will also vote on David's change on 8/6, as an individual vote. We
need
to wait a week on this because it is a procedural rule.
LRM grammar changes:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Joao discusses the proposal he emailed out.
Francoise wants to eliminate/change the "broadly" reference. Joao
agrees.
Andrzej wants us to list what is supported rather than what is not
accepted.
Francoise wants to change c) to say something like:
c) arguments to dpi functions cannot be passed by reference, see section
26.4.6 [Joao has taken the wording directly from Francoise in the
meeting.]
Once this is cleared up Joao will send it out again and we will vote on
it
too (presumably next Wed 8/6).
Open vs. Dynamic Arrays::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Swapnajit asks if we want to send a formal proposal to SV-EC on this.
But
the ensuing discussion shows that we still need to understand more.
Andrzej notes that dynamic arrays may be handled differently on the c
side
vs. open arrays. Andrzej wants us to eliminate the passing of dynamic
arrays to eliminate any possible confusion. Francoise agrees. But Joao
mentioned that Verilog already defines coercions for this, and this may
not
be an issue. Since we are uncertain whether or not we need to add
verbage
to the LRM, Andrzej will check on this.
[I'm not too sure if I got all this right, but in any case Andrzej's
follow-up email should clarify things.]
Other 3.1 items:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Swapnajit brings up some past topics, ans asks if they are still valid.
- Doug's C Model [module?] proposal. Doug needs to state if he still
wants
us to consider this feature. Joao thinks that this feature may be
problematic.
- Michael's source inclusion.
Michael states that we need to specify how our callbacks work with VPI
(like
when are they called). Joao heartily agrees and thinks that this should
be
explicitly noted in our documentation. Michael is going to send out his
thoughts as a formal proposal
Closing::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Role call:
Francoise Martinole
John Amouroux
Michael Rohleder
Ralph Duncan
Swapnajit Mittra
Joao Geada
Mike MacNamara
Ghassan Khoory
Andrzej Litwiniuk
We will meet the same time next week, our regular schedule.
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