-------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [P1800] Questions on our activities during the ballot period. Date: Wed, 23 Feb 2005 13:42:40 -0600 From: Johny Srouji <srouji@us.ibm.com> To: chas CC: IEEE1800 <ieee1800@eda.org>, owner-ieee1800@eda.org, SV-CC <sv-cc@eda.org> Hi Charles, I think you raise valid questions and I will reply to you later in the afternoon my time. In general, the process "spirit" is to enable timely and quality ballot resolution for the issues that will be raised during the ballot. Please note that in the ballot letters which were sent to registered entities, I have urged them to send me their ballot votes and issues as soon as they can, and if possible before 24 March. I would be forwarding ballot issues and working w/ Karen and the Champions group in filtering and forwarding ballot issues to the committees. Therefore, you probably need to start the work before April 6th. I will send you a detailed response and directions later in the afternoon. Thanks, --- Johny. Charles Dawson <chas@cadence.com> Sent by: owner-ieee1800@eda.org 02/23/2005 12:22 PM Please respond to chas To IEEE1800 <ieee1800@eda.org> cc SV-CC <sv-cc@eda.org> Subject [P1800] Questions on our activities during the ballot period. Hi P1800 Committee, The SV-CC Committee met today, and discussed Karen's email about our current schedule. We had a number of questions, which I was tasked to ask you. They are: - Can we work on stuff that the Reporter say that will show up on a ballot? It is assumed that the people reviewing the documents will end up filing (or having someone file for them) Mantis issues as they are found. Presuming that the Reporter for these issues indicates that they intend to include it in their ballot, can we start working on them? Some issues may take a while to resolve, and this would increase the likelihood of them being resolved within our timeline. - Can we continue to work on stuff that are targeted for the next version of the document? The email from Karen indicates that we cannot even DISCUSS items that are not targeted for this version of the document. We thought this was a bit restrictive (in principle), even though we acknowledge that we are likely to be too busy reviewing the document ourselves to really work on further out stuff. - Timeline for beginning work on the next document? There was also a question as to when we can expect to begin working on items for the next document. Do we have to wait for a new PAR? If so, when would that happen? If not, when can we expect to wrap up the current version and therefore start the next one? - Where in minutes does it say we are prohibited from further discussion/work on issues? We took an (admittedly) cursory look at the minutes from the P1800 meeting, and could not find the text describing what was in Karen's email. Can you clarify when this was discussed, and exactly what was decided at the P1800 meeting? - Can we close items that were resolved as part of the editing process? We have several items which were intentionally not addressed by the SV-CC committee because we knew that they would get resolved through the editing process. Can we at least act on these items, since they will not require an actual change to the document? The SV-CC Committee decided to meet again next Wednesday with the expectation that you will have responded to our queries by then. Without further direction from you, it is likely that we will postpone our activities until the April 6th meeting. -Chas P.S. I've included Karen's original email for reference. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Please Read: Schedule for responding to balloting feedback Date: Fir, 18 Feb 2005 11:45:24 -0800 From: Karen Pieper <Karen.Pieper@synopsys.com> To: srouji@us.ibm.com, <Karen.Pieper@synopsys.com>, <matthew.r.maidment@intel.com>, Brad.Pierce@synopsys.com, Mehdi.Mohtashemi@synopsys.com, <Neil.Korpusik@sun.com>, chas, <Ghassan.Khoory@synopsys.com>, <fhaque@cisco.com>, <Arif.Samad@synopsys.com> Hi, SV-* Chairs and Co-chairs, After yesterday's P1800 meeting, I can now communicate the process for work in the P1800 SV-* committees going forward. Please note that the schedule is very tight, and that there are some suggested all day Face-to-Face meetings that need to be scheduled below. February 22: The balloting process opens. As feedback is filed with the IEEE, it will be forwarded to Johny, and he is likely to forward it on to me and the Champions for preliminary processing into buckets (see March 28 below). The committees may wish to leave open the opportunity to meet in this time in case some feedback is forwarded to the committee; however, the committees are NOT AUTHORIZED to discuss any issue not raised in the ballot feedback forwarded from the Champions until further notice. Please update your committee agendas as required. March 24: The ballot closes. March 28: P1800 will receive the accumulated feedback filed with the balloting. This feedback will be given to the Champions to sort into several buckets: 1) Issues that may require substantive changes to the LRM are forwarded to the SV-* committees 2) Issues that are editorial changes will be forwarded to Stu 3) Issues that are "not a bug" are commented on appropriately and passed back to the P1800 The P1800 recommends that the champions have a face-to-face all day meeting to complete this process. March 31: The Champions are complete with their initial classification and assignment of issues to committees. The P1800 recommends that the SV-* committees plan an all day face-to-face to deal with the issues raised. Possible resolutions are: 1) Changes are made to the LRM to address the issue 2) Addressing the issue is determined to decrease consensus in the committee is so noted on the issues spreadsheet. 3) Other determination of the issue is made and is also so noted in the issues spreadsheet Note: Saying that an issue will be delayed to a future release is not an allowed response. April 12: The committees are complete with their LRM updates and issue spreadsheet updates. The Champions will meet, do their review of LRM changes looking for inconsistency, etc. This is likely to be a phone meeting. April 15: The Champions have completed their analysis and the data is forwarded to the P1800. April 19: The P1800 has a WG meeting in Austin to approve the changes and responses. May 3: The updated draft is ready for editorial review of the changes May 9: The re-ballot draft is complete May 10: Voting on the re-ballot draft starts. Please let me know if you have any questions or concerns. Karen ----- end included message ----- -- Charles Dawson Senior Engineering Manager NC-Verilog Team Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 (978) 262 - 6273 chas@cadence.com -- Charles Dawson Senior Engineering Manager NC-Verilog Team Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 (978) 262 - 6273 chas@cadence.comReceived on Wed Feb 23 11:47:43 2005
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