RE: [Fwd: Re: [sv-cc] Definition of full name in 1364]

For that matter, not even thinking about what a
vpiFullName is, the 1800 LRM doesn't actually extend
the %m specifier for SystemVerilog constructs in general.
So if we were to interpret the LRM strictly, does this
mean that %m is defined only by 17.1.1.6 of 1364-2005?
In that case, it prints only the hierarchical name of a
module, task, function, or named block -- not even
that of an interface, let alone a function extern'd
within an interface!

For an object in a package, it should probably emulate
what we've described as the vpiFullName for such
objects, ditto for mdethods in a class.

Is there a ballot comment around on %m so that we could
actually do something about it?  Or should we create
a whole new section on hierarchical names on the excuse
that we need it to define a vpiFullName?

Regards,
Jim V.

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] -----Original Message-----
] From: owner-sv-cc@eda.org [mailto:owner-sv-cc@eda.org] On 
] Behalf Of Charlie Dawson
] Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2005 3:56 PM
] To: SV-CC
] Subject: [Fwd: Re: [sv-cc] Definition of full name in 1364]
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] -------- Original Message --------
] Subject: Re: [sv-cc] Definition of full name in 1364
] Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2005 15:53:53 -0400
] From: Joao Geada <jgeada@comcast.net>
] To: Charles Dawson <chas>
] References: <425EC6FF.1070600@cadence.com>
] 
] Chas:
] 
] What would "%m" print in a task/interface inside a package?
] What if the package was visible in multiple independent compilation
] units?
] 
] What would "%m" print inside a forked-not-joined task/function ?
] (particularly if running live in multiple threads)
] 
] What would "%m" print for a extern task in an interface?
] 
] What does "%m" print for methods of a class?
] 
] Joao
] 
] On Thu, 2005-04-14 at 15:39 -0400, Charles Dawson wrote:
]  > Hi All,
]  >
]  > At the last meeting I took an action to look for the definition of
]  > vpiFullName in the 1364 specification. This was in reference to
]  > Mantis Item 610.
]  >
]  > I could not find one, so perhaps we should try to make a 
] definition.
]  > I know that I have had a view of what vpiFullName should return for
]  > quite some time, but I'm not sure how to put it into the spec.
]  >
]  > It goes something like this:
]  >    - Full hierarchical name starting from the top module.
]  >    - A string which can then be successfully parsed by
]  >      vpi_handle_by_name() such that the same object would be
]  >      returned as that with which we started.
]  >    - The format would also be the same as what $display("%m") might
]  >      return.  Not sure if this is necessary.
]  >
]  > Am I missing any important points?
]  >
]  >    -Chas
]  >
]  >
] 
] 
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