Minutes of 05/06/2005 SV-CC Meeting. 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Reviewed Patent information. - Charles Dawson reviewed the patent information. 2. Reviewed minutes of the 05/04/2005 Meeting. - Steve/Ralph. ACCEPTED. 3. Liaisons - All items accepted by P1800 except 526. Needs clarification. JimV to implement. - Need input from francoise on scheduling issue. Chas to talk with her. 4. New business - Final Meeting time. It was decided that from 11:30am-4:00pm EDT on 05/10/2005 would work for most people on the call. - Bassam: We need to add vpiAssertion into include file. Chas suggested that he file a new mantis item and add a proposal. Easiest way to fix this. - Chas requested that everyone send in a list of the Items that they think they will have proposals for the Tuesday meeting, so that he can create an agenda. 5. Reviewed of items with proposals. - Item 528 32.21 missing iteration on type declarations Friendly amendment to Note 3 in 32.22: If the class var has the value of NULL, vpiClassDefn shall return a NULL handle." to If the class var has the value of NULL, vpi_handle(vpiClassObj,RH) shall return a NULL handle. Friendly amendment to Note 1 in 32.22: a waiting process to A waiting process Friendly amendment to Note 8 in 32.22: vpi_get_value when ... to vpi_get_value() when .... Should there be an iteration on constraints from NULL? Definitely not a 1-1 relationship, so let's make it 1-many. Long discussion on NULL vs null. Francoise created a new proposal with these things fixed. Francoise/Bassam. PASSED (unanimous) Bassam: Need another Mantis Item to fix access to constraints (iteration from NULL, instances?) Bassam: Need another Mantis Item to getting variables for a class obj. - Item 547 32.47 two tagged pattern objects in pattern class Francoise/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 458 32.13 Question on the range relation Fix LHS. vpiLeftRange is 1-1. Goes from logic net only. Change from Draft 5. Chas to fix. - Item 451 32.5 Why the need for an interface tf decl? Close as not a bug. Francoise/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 450 32.7 confusing note Chas requested an example. Francoise to provide one. - Item 377 "32.25 Module path, path term" does not reflect all the changes made in P1364 Ralph/JimV. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 376 26.6.6 Need to remove multiple labels on a one arrow Michael/Ralph. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 437 30.4.4 Last paragraph does not make sense JimV/JimG. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 441 Annex I - Assertion #defines overlaps with object types Declare as not a bug. Bassam/Michael. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 416 27 - Need to not use the ambiguous term 'user' Friendly amendment to fix the master page to show 1364 instead of 1800. Friendly amendment: "a application" should be "an application" in several places. Friendly amendment to 27.29 to change: an application application routine to an application callback routine JimV/Steve. PASSED (unanimous) Chas to update proposal. - Item 455 32.12.1 poorly written paragraphs Francoise moves that we mark it a duplicate of Item 489. Steve seconds. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 487 32.34 Order of operands should be in 32.39 Move to duplicate this with 686. JimV seconds. PASSED (unanimous) - Item 686 32.34 & 32.36 Which operators for assertion "and" and "or" in VPI? JimG. Meeting ended at 1:06pm EDT. 6. Old Business 7. Action items SV-CC action items: - Francoise to ask Peter Ashenden what was done to improve printing from Rational Rose. - Francoise to inquire about the feasibility of third parties shipping the UML for the diagrams. - JimV to enter a new SV-CC item for adding tables for return values of the properties. - Stu to file new SV-CC item that will address bigger issue he pointed out in Item 321. - Francoise and Chas to investigate what to do for systemVerilog and generates - Chas/Francoise to review/change proposal for Item 455. - Chas to redo proposal for Item 463. - Francoise to clarify definition of frames for Item 465. - Chas to lookup definition of vpiFullName in 1364 for Item 610. - Sachi to rework proposal for Item 482. - Chas to review assignments and redo where necessary. - Tapati to rework Item 606. - Chas to update proposal for Item 425. - Ralph to work with JimV to fix other issues found in Item 487. - Michael to update proposal for Item 431. - Francoise to rework Item 489. - Francoise and Jim to rework Item 465. - Tapati to provide HTML or PDF for Item 496. PTF action items: - Steve to compare BNF with the access available for attributes to see if they match - Stu to enter new PTF item for save/restart/reset issue. - Francoise to lookup wording for PTF 524 in VHPI. - Francoise will open a new PTF issue to look for situations like 25.6.15, where multiple methods are used access the same object enclosure - Chas to reword proposal for PTF 525. - Francoise to file a PTF item that asks to specify the order that iteration occur in, when the order is important. - Steve to add ETF item for Annex C to remove the Informative label, but still allow the contents to be optional. - Chas to file an Item on the usage of the term "tags" at the beginning of clause 27. 8. Items for consideration at the next meeting (they already have proposals): - Item 345 VPI changes to support Encryption - Item 418 PTF 562 Need to have a vpiTimeConst in the vpi_user.h file - Item 449 32.11 vpiPortType is missing from the include file - Item 454 32.11 incorrect format for the 2nd note - Item 472 32.22 Note 1 needs clarification - Item 483 32.28 Should document backwards compatibility issue - Item 485 32.29 Clarify difference between a thread and a frame - Item 526 VPI references to dynamic objects prevent garbage collection - Item 684 32.39 vpiMultiConcat should be vpiMultiConcatOp - Item 685 26.6.26 vpiMultiConcat should be vpiMultiConcatOp - Item 686 32.34 & 32.36 Which operators for assertion "and" and "or" in VPI? - Item 721 Add PLI support for structure and type initialization - Item 726 Add vpiAssertion object type into sv_vpi_user.h -- Charles Dawson Senior Engineering Manager NC-Verilog Team Cadence Design Systems, Inc. 270 Billerica Road Chelmsford, MA 01824 (978) 262 - 6273 chas@cadence.comReceived on Sat May 7 13:04:54 2005
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